Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind on my PC

[Adair]

I had to post some shots of this game. I just got it and I'm already in love with it. Its an RPG, but its very non-linear. You can go just about anywhere on an Island that's about 10 square miles. And you can pick up/use just about anything that's not nailed down. I don't even really know what if any real plot line this game has. Anyway, on to the shots.

[Adair]

I'm not sure why some of my shots are so dark. but I'm only posting this dark one. BTW these shots are from a GF4 Ti4400 with 4xS AA.

[Adair]

I wanted to show some cool armor and shield so I turned on invincibility and slowly killed a guy with cool equipment.

[Adair]

check out the water in this game. Its all pixel shaded to give it the nice wavy effect. You even get ripples from the rain drops.

[Adair]

a dark elf...

[Adair]

hmmm, a strange creature minding its own business...

[Adair]

...I think I'll kill it.

[Adair]

uhoh! its friend isn't too happy with me.

[Omega]

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: DAMN REAL NICE!!!!!! LOOK AT THOSE GRAPHICS!!! :eek:

[Cless]

your lucky becuase my gf3 can't run this game with FFSAA not that you need it at 1024, and i have to turn down realtime shadows and viewdistance, which sucks. But over i like the game so far. And here are my screens.

[Cless]

this another random shot.

[Cless]

last random shot of the day.

[ToM_E]

WOW...the water looks lovely...

[Strider]

its swamp water :)

sincerely,
Strider

[sxamiga]

Amazing game. Looks like it will be on my list of must buys. SIgh, so many games, so little time.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[Omega]

The sky is just perfect :eek:

[BlackHawk]

nice pic.. but doesn't this kind of game takes FOREVER to finish ?

[sxamiga]

BlackHawk, yes, RPGs can take a long time to finish. But that is why you can save your game. So you don't have to do it all at once. Since you can save your game, you can play as little or as much at a time as you like.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[Strider]

the longer it takes to finish, the better it is (that is if it takes longer because of many cool things not repetitiveness) morrowind can take from 5-100 hours to finish, and the way im playiing, its gonna take me 125 hours, which is good :p :D

sincerely
Strider

[Cless]

I am going the same route as strider...not mention i restarted multiple times finding out which class i like and race took me a while.

[Strider]

i restarted thrice, now im playing as a nord witch hunting character, i have high speed and strength, high willpower, high longsword skills, and heavy armor skills.

sincerely,
Strider

[Cless]

I like the dark elf spellsword. or a custom thief style char.

[Omega]

There's only that swamp knight to select as playable character?

[Cless]

no...there are lots of choices. you have 10 races, 21 classes plus you can make your own class. That gives you a lot of choices.

[Omega]

Can you snap some shots of the other races?

[Laban]

WOW this game looks sweet. I think I'm going to have to pick up a copy this weekend

[Omega]

Careful about the words laban, maybe you should pick up an ORIGINAL copy ;)

[Cylinder]

I have this game too, and it is kinda slow but can be fun when you kill anyone you want. Typical dark elf fasion, sneak around, steal stuff, and kill the unsuspecting. For example, I killed a shopkeep for his prices displeased me. Another time I slayed a woman for not paying me after I delt with her rat problem. Must be at least 5 bodies in 4 or 5 towns I have traveled to so far.

P.S.

I love stealing, I love takin things...

[spajdr]

Not many RPG games are unbalanced,but this game is,so it is possible to make so strong character in few days,that you are unbeatable,invisible + have your weapon enchanted with some uber powers due to soulstones,its good to be god,but it gets boring quickly,its like cheating,so be careful people.

[Laban]

Originally posted by Omega_Vermelho
Careful about the words laban, maybe you should pick up an ORIGINAL copy ;)

LOL.. that's acutally what I meant to say. I'm getting ready to head to babbages in a few minutes

[Omega]

Cylinder: heya d00d welcome back :p
Laban: Yep but that phrase was something like 2 meanings, well nevermind :p

[Cylinder]

Thanks Omega_Vermelho :D

Also does anyone else get low framerates on this game? I know I wont get a blistering speed with my setup, but my little brother has an AMD XP1700+ 256DDR and an MSI GeForce 3, and even he gets choppiness. As well as my friend with his AMD XP1900+ and GeForce 4 Ti4600 gets about 30 FPS at 1024x768. Thoughts, comments.

[Cless]

reduce your viewing range it will help a lot....i run at 15fps usally bearely enough but it works.

[Adair]

Originally posted by delita
reduce your viewing range it will help a lot....i run at 15fps usally bearely enough but it works.
Yeah same here. I get about 10 or 15 fps when I'm outside, but I just can't persuade myself to turn off the 4xS AntiAliasing to get a few extra frames. Also I have the view distance set to maximum.

Oh yeah, here's how my character looks now...my robe glows because its magic. This sword is freakin' huge

[Cless]

i found that FSAA doesn't hurt your fps a lot in this game...the veiwing range does. Just turn it down and little and you get a better fps.

[Eface]

yeah.... do the math.... the terrain is REALLY impressive, and add, let's say 2 metres of viewing range....... ur card will have to do A LOT more processing then.... but with a nice gf3 and amd xp 1700 it'll go no probs...... like with me.

btw, i'm a Khajit, thief style. I'm VERY RICH, and i train non stop so i get INSANE stats at the lowest levels. And with my marksman ship that high... heheh.... do you know HOW MUCH arrows u can just find lying around, i've found 1200 already... but then again, now i know i'm not gonna run out of ammo anytime soon.

[Cless]

Eface we have close to the same system but res do you use?

[Adair]

I have a similar system too, except for the GF4(I was long overdue for an upgrade so I decided to get something new), but it seems that my ALi Magik chipset on my motherboard is slowing me down. I just hope that ALi or Iwill can get their stuff together and put out some good drivers.

BTW have any of you checked out any mods for morrowind yet? There's an official one that came out a day or two ago that lets you play some instruments in a bar in Balmora. There's a bunch of unofficial stuff too. Most of the unofficial stuff is either new weapons or armor and then there's a few where people added an abandon house or something that you can store stuff in. I haven't checked into any of them yet cause I've been too busy playing the game. I think I might play the unmodded game for a while longer unless something really cool comes out soon. If your interested check out the forums on the official morrowind site (http://www.elderscrolls.com/main.htm)

P.S. I even saw a mod that makes women topless when you kill them and take all their clothes, but it didn't look real great. The nipples weren't placed right.

[spajdr]

Ok some pictures from me .. playing at resolution 1152x864,speed is same as on 640x480 (maybe 3-fps loss) Some pictures was snapped on lower resolution,and THIS IS IMPORTANT : if you stuck on some places,when you cant move,press tilde button (to the right of 1) console window will appear then write FIXME and you will be transported like 1 meter to place where is no object,always worked for me :) Ok now first picture ...

[spajdr]

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[spajdr]

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[spajdr]

Since i snapped pictures and pictures was too dark,looks like game didnt snap picture with modified brightness,so i must changed it thru FotoCanvas.

[spajdr]

... I forget to say that i have 15fps (minimum) in cities ... otherwise 25-45fps .. in dungeons 35-45fps.

[spajdr]

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[spajdr]

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[spajdr]

uhhh .. brightness is set too much .. sorry for that (on my oldie monitor it looks fine though :D .. Here we have summoned Frost Atronach.

[spajdr]

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[spajdr]

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[Adair]

Wow, good tip there spajdr. I have gotten stuck on polies a few times and had to reload. I saw that command on a cheat code site, but I didn't think of it when I was stuck. Actaully I didn't think it was meant for that purpose. The description on the cheat site was that it made you jump 128 units away from your current location so I was thinking that 128 units was alot farther than a meter and that the cheat was intended to bail you out of a fight when you were about to die. I should have known better since I took a game design class once where I learned about units.
*Random fact that I remember- An Unreal Tournament character is 96 units tall.

[spajdr]

Thats all for now :-) not at bad game ... One ring that i have equipped have value 22000 :-) but since some unique items costs 500000 .. :-/ :-)

[spajdr]

Adair : well some places in mines cant be passed without this command,too bad you cant use it on NPC which follow you and somewhere got stuck.

[Eface]

i use 1024x768x32 no fsaa

[Cless]

me too but frames are always around 15 and i get pause when i go a different area..i just restart(too many choices) what class or custom class do you any of you suggest?

[spajdr]

delita : just make you major skills as i use.But you need to run a lot,swim,repair your armor,i found ring with summon fire atronach,which is cool for weakening enemies,but sometimes i got hit by his fire explosion and i die together with enemy,sometimes even holy shield didnt help me :-) (for healing) its good that there are hotkeys.

[fox-]

cool shots guys, couldn't resist adding a couple of my char.

here's my dark elf chick, most of her equipment is courtesy of the imperial legion, the skirt i took off some fancy boy (after i killed him) because he mouthed off at me.

[fox-]

now from behind

[spajdr]

that armor looks superb .. two horses against each other .. :-)

[Omega]

is that a chick? :eek:

[Strider]

she's a dark elf... what did you expect?

sincerely,
Strider

[Omega]

I thought the dark elfs were kind of beautiful too, like that chick from Lodoss War...

[Adair]

And there I was just minding my own business...

[Adair]

...when a wild guar decided to invade my personal space.

[Adair]

problem solved

[Adair]

...and the hero emerges victorious.

[Eface]

I'm a khajit thief, and steal EVERYTHING that is loose, or stuck..... and if it's worth more then 10 gold, i'll steal it(there are a LOT of light 10 gold items.... pick up a few 100, and SELL)

i did kill on few occasions too, i just wanted that glass armor that bad.... even though i'm better of unarmored(hey, glass armor looks so nice... purrrr)

but i still don't get it, i steal the sword that is right under their nose, can't they see it if i just crouch in front of them, and when i stand, they will?:D

[ToMegaTherion]

Originally posted by Adair
...when a wild guar decided to invade my personal space.

Woooow the game is impressive :eek:
Bethesda didn't lie when they showed some screenshots I the past !
I wonder how good (bad?) the game will run on my poor config
:confused:

[spajdr]

ToMegaTherion : what graphic card and cpu you have ?

[ToMegaTherion]

Originally posted by spajdr
ToMegaTherion : what graphic card and cpu you have ?

Athlon 1.2Ghz and GF2GTS.
Any framerate estimation ? :p

[Adair]

You'll definitely need at a 1gig CPU because the rendering engine used for Morrowind is very CPU intensive.
Checkout my PC config in my signature.
I'm running the game at 1024x768 with 4xS AntiAliasing. And you can see the FPS I'm getting in the outdoor environments by looking in the lower right corner of my screenshots.

P.S. I got a magic robe, magic helmet, and magic sword(among other magic things not shown in this pic)

[Adair]

Originally posted by ToMegaTherion
Athlon 1.2Ghz and GF2GTS.
Any framerate estimation ? :p
Probably 15 - 20 FPS for outdoor environment at 800x600resolution.

[Omegainf]

What an awesome game!!!! Too bad it won't run at all on my machine :( :( :( :(

[spajdr]

Adair : that city is Balmora ? Im in it now too,level 12 :-) Interesting that you have same FPS as me,but your graphic card is much faster then mine,looks like its really mainly cpu intensive.

[Adair]

Yep, the strange thing is that I only get 1 to 5 more fps when I turn 4xS AA off at the same resolution.

[Zero-Omega]

WOW, those are some NICE shots everyone! I definately want to get a Geforce 3 ti200, but will it run in at least 30fps or so in 1024-768x32 with my configuration? BTW, is Morrowind like another MMORPG or single player, or both, because it does look pretty awesome!

[Cless]

it is isngle and no you get 15 fps i have the same system and that is what get it pissses me off becuase i only lose one fps with 4x FSAA but i need that one fps and going to 800x600 only give me 5-10 more fps and reduces the quality a lot.

[Raqia]

Maybe Bathesda programed a frame rate limiter into the game :-D

This is such an engrossing game. I just started playing and I think it will take over my life soon.

[sxamiga]

I've been playing Morrowind a little bit and I don't get any slow downs, at least not that i can see. One question i do have is, is there a way to take pictures "in game" without having to press print screen? I mean, is there a key that does for you if you press it? Thanks for any response.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[Adair]

Originally posted by sxamiga
One question i do have is, is there a way to take pictures "in game" without having to press print screen?
sincerely,
sx/amiga

sxamiga, glad to know you've entered the wrld of Morrowind. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Yes you can take pics without having to do the printscreen method. It just takes a quick tweak of the morrowind.ini file which can be found in the "...\bethesda softworks\morrowind\" folder. If you make any drastic changes to the .ini make sure you've made a backup of the original first.
Once your in the .ini scroll down about 25 lines and you should see this:
Screen Shot Enable=0

You want to change it to this:
Screen Shot Enable=1

Now you can play Morrowind and when you press the printscreen button it will automatically place your shot into the Morrowind folder. Why they had that off by default is beyond me.

Also if you want to see your fps then change the "show FPS=0" into "show FPS=1". You should find that in the first few lines of the .ini

Looking forward to some of your screen shots,
Adair

[Adair]

Originally posted by Raqia
Maybe Bathesda programed a frame rate limiter into the game :-D

This is such an engrossing game. I just started playing and I think it will take over my life soon.
Actually there is a frame limiter built into the game which can be changed in the Morrowind.ini file, but its default setting is 240fps.

hmmm...240...maybe you have to tell it to limit at 10x what you actually want.
240 /10 =24 this sounds about right to me...j/k

BTW, I just couldn't hold out anymore. I had to cheat and summon some awesome glass armor. I think this is the best light armor you can get.

[Adair]

here's a front view. I'm actually not wearing those arm bracers anymore. I happened upon a pair of magic gauntlets in one of the countless caves that I've cleaned out. The right gauntlet gives me a constant effect(if I'm wearing it) of +20 agility. And the left one gives me a constant +20 strength. That pair of gauntlets is probably the best thing I've found in the game so far. If anybody just has to know where I found them then ask and I'll PM you the location because I don't wanna spoil anything for anyone(except you).

[Strider]

i think the best thing i got in the game was my <insert word here> ebony helm... 100+ defense... looks cool too... anyone want me to post up a screen of myself? im using a dwemer broadsword i think and the saint shield from the guy in the balmora temple (it cost a lot but i traded away some of my own items) ... i think the best way in this game to make money (without cheating) is to get all the soulgems you can, get the soultrap spell, and go around trapping sould, so far the best guy i trapped was a lame corprus for 39k, but ive fought better enemies.

sincerely,
Strider

[sxamiga]

Yes Strider, I would like to see a screen shot of that. The Ebony helm does sound cool. What kind of character do you have? My character is an Orc Warrior and he looks cool.
Thanks for the information Adair. I'll do that tonight and take a couple of shots.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[Cless]

i need to start playing this game if o could only decide between a fighter or thief...and get past the fact that all i get is 15fps. i like my psx games where i can 700fps.

[Strider]

OK i got my screens, preparing to upload... btw my character is a nord, who has high willpower, and very high speed endurance and strength... also skilled in the magical art however thats mainly for soultrapping and enchanting.

number 1: On a Vivee balcony

[Strider]

front view of my on the balcony... here you see my ebony helmet, and my saintly ebony shield :)... i didnt like the blue robe, and the gray robes made me look like a hobo, so i bought me a golden one... now i look like one of those honourable samurai with the chestpiece in front

[Strider]

Screen 3: fighting stance... notice my kick arse broadsword... looks a lot cooler from 1st person...

[Strider]

Screen 4: BEWARE THE FLYING VIKING!! PH33R ME!!!!

[Cless]

stirder that class and race combo is a nice idea that i may try, I tried a dark elf night blade and got my ass kicked fast.

[Strider]

Last screen, Screen 5: Oh SHI------!!!!!!! Too many flying spells, i feel like helium, flew tooooooo high... hehe ... im a high nord.

sincerely,
Strider

[sxamiga]

Great shots Strider. Very cool character indeed. I think you'll like my character also. Unfortunately, I was unable to take any screen shots tonight. Hopefully tomorrow.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[Adair]

geez!! a +100 defense! that's uh.. nice
Looks like I have a ton more exploring to do(as if I didn't already know that) so I can find stuff like that.
It looks like you've got a very cool character there, Strider. I like the color scheme for him too, but for my character I'm trying to stick with dark armor and clothes. I've mainly been focusing on the same attributes as you except for light armor. And I wish I hadn't picked armorer as a minor skill. I should've gone with merchantile or possibly a magic skill instead.
Anyway here's my current stats and also the area I've explored. I try to completely explore a region before moving on but sometimes I just wanna run around and kill stuff. Most of the explored region to the north isn't very well explored. BTW I used a cheat to mark all the towns on the map.

[fox-]

Here's a few item locations in case anyone is interested.

Spoilers.

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Daedric Greaves - Dren Plantation, Villa second floor on a shelf
Ebony Cuirass - Dren Plantation, same as above
Ebony Long Sword - Dren Plantation, Slave Master chick has it
Mask of so-in-so vile - dagon fel - necromancer tower
Full set of Glass armor - Ghostgate - Tower of Dusk bottom floor
Boots of the Apostile (sp?) Keep - South East of Gnisis

You can just steal the daedric greaves and ebony cuirass from the villa in the dren plantation, this will tick off the owner and he'll attack you, as well as another guy appears out of no where to attack you, i used a shadow amulet to turn invisible, grab the stuff and run.

You have to kill the slave master in the dren plantation for the ebony long sword. also there's a theif in another hut in the dren plantation that has a glass long sword and shield, he's pretty easy to kill.

The mask that you get from the necromancer in dagon fel gives 181 def with a 68 in my heavy armor skill. the mask also provides the user with a constant +30 to personality, which is handy for dealing with npc's.

the full set of glass armor in the ghostgate tower is on the bottom floor in the smiths room on display on shelves and in crates. i've noticed that the glass items he has available changes from time to time, you can get a full set, over a full set, or a peice or to less than a full set. well worth stealing especially earlier on in the game.

the boots of the apostile was the hardest item i've aquired so far, i had to go all the way to the bottom of the keep which is south east of gnisis to get them, and the keep is filled with some pretty nasty monsters, but well worth the effort since the boots give me 72 def and 30 secs of levitate.

here's a pic of my char wearing some of the items i mentioned, namely the mask, a few glass pieces, the ebony cuirass, daedric greaves, and boots. pretty mismatched, but it works out fairly well.

if anybody knows the location of any daedric items i sure wouldn't mind a tip!

[Adair]

SPOILERS










I know where you can get some daedric weapons, such as the two handed dai-katana which does 1 - 60 damage in a chop. Basically here's what you gotta do...
Look on your map at Balmora, then look to the left at the shore and you'll see a strip of land that extends out from the mainland and then curves around to connect again. You need to explore that strip of land to find a couple of daedric temples. You'll see ruins of old castles that are gaurded by Atronachs and Daedra and one or two Orcs in full sets of orcish armor. Anyway if you explore the ruins you'll find a door to an underground temple called something like Ashurnibibi. If you go in the temple and find a big statue then save you're game, then pick up the stuff in front of the statue and a Daedra will appear. Kill him for his weapon and if you don't get a very good weapon off of him then reload that save and try to spawn him again. They usually only give short and long blades though. I wanted a daedric bow, but couldn't get one.
BTW there should be a couple of those temples in that area.

[fox-]

spoilers......








nice tip, i wasn't aware that the daedra could actually drop daedric items, every time i've killed one i ended up with a long sword or war axe like you said. i'll try the "respawn" trick later on.

also forgot to mention earlier that the necromancer in dagon fel also has a daedric dagger in his tower, not very powerful but it is worth a pretty penny.

[DarkAurora]

This game sounds really kick ass!

[sxamiga]

Well, as promised, here are some shots of my character. Sorry that they are so dark, but it was night and it was raining.
sincerely,
sx/amiga
Number one, a proud ORC Warrior.

[sxamiga]

Number 2, a close up of him holding his axe.

[sxamiga]

Number 3, a shot from behind his head. It may look like he has only one ear, but he has two. The other is in shadow.

[sxamiga]

Number 4, here he is with a kill he just made. Took only two swings of the axe to kill this thing.

[sxamiga]

Number 5 and the last, for now. Here he is getting ready to cast some healing magic. His birthsign is the sign of the Ritual, so, even though he is an ORC Warrior, he can cast healing magic and turn undead.

[Cless]

nice srceens. Adair i like skills you chose for you char i am going to try that set up.

[Adair]

Originally posted by delita
nice srceens. Adair i like skills you chose for you char i am going to try that set up.
Heh, thanks:emb:
Actually I would recommend choosing something other than the armorer skill. I have hardly used it to repair anything myself. And when I had picked the speechcraft skill I was under the impression that it did what the merchantile skill does. Other than that I've been real happy with my skills. I almost wish I had picked some skill that was based off of endurance (ie: spear, medium armor, heavy armor), but I realized recently that if I can level-up my spear skill about 10 levels in between leveling up my overall character then I can choose Endurance x5. So I guess I'm going to try and pick 3 different characteristics(that I don't already have maxed out) and I'll level up my skills that are based on those characteristics, which should make me a badass in no time flat.;)
Ok I'm kinda rambling here, but I'm just saying its taken me a while to figure out exactly how the game determines how many endurance points I can get with one level-up.

[Adair]

I want to share a pic I took which makes a good desktop wallpaper.
Its got a strange resolution because I cut off the bottom and side to get rid of the HUD, but you can cut/resize it as you like.

[Adair]

Is anybody still playing this game?
I got kinda bored with it and haven't played it since GTA3 has been out. I never actually followed the main story to it. Maybe I'll still play it, talk to Caius Cosades, and beat it just to be done with it. Although its kinda boring because nothing really even comes close to killing my 30th level character. I might have to get myself some weaker weapons just for a challenge.

[spajdr]

Adair : its boring after like week or two,its just too easy after level 15+ right ? :p there are mods,that can make more challenge,but still i liked daggerfall more.;) (in one game magazine there is full version of Planescape Tourment (old game but i never played it) and its much better that Morrowind ;)

[sxamiga]

Oh boy, here we go again!!:( :( :( :( :( 'Nuff said.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[spajdr]

sxamiga : what ya mean .. again ? :p

[Adair]

Originally posted by spajdrX
sxamiga : what ya mean .. again ? :p
Heh, I didn't understand that either.

[sxamiga]

First liking then blasting Dungeon Siege and now the same thing w/Morrowind. Ie:Here we go again.:eyes: I'm getting tired of it.
:(
sx/amiga

[Strider]

i never really liked ds... i said it had nice graphics... but i didnt see anything else spectacular... morrowind i still cheer for, pretty revolutionary game for me, firsr one in a long time with such an "open" storyline

[sxamiga]

Strider, I agree, you were always open minded. Okay, to you, Adair, and anyone else who sees what I have said, here is what it is. I feel that both games are quite nice and they are new material, maybe the same plot as has been done before, but basically new material. So instead of eveybody being glad to get something new, they ge bored with it very quickly and then start asking, again, why aren't here any, new, good games for the PC.
Please realize that I am not aiming this at any one person in paticular, but referring to things that I have heard fom many people. So here they are, still wondering why no new games are coming, when in fact some just did. Also, game companies and developers keep an eye on the "pulse" of things and maybe, when they see people's interest fade that quickly, they get discouraged as well. They may feel that "They can never satisfy thegaming public" so why try. Then they just go back to rushing out pieces of "yuck" instead of nice, well thought out, games. So in essence it is the whining and then getting bore quickly when something new IS offered that I am tired of. I just don't understand it I guess. I hope this helps clear it up some.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[spajdr]

Hmm .. well ... i played my first game when i was 8 years old.Today im 24 and if i look at games,not many of them are revolutionary,most of them just have superb graphic,but thats all.Doom III looks nice,but millions of polygons didnt make it to be cool game,anyone tried editor for NewerWinter Nights ? looks very good,i like all game from Black Isle Studios,cause they make quality games.Look at Warzone 2100,great strategy game,but died,cause of stupid Eidos.Not many game companies add new units to game,but if you look at Warzone 2100 .. 10 patches and more than 20 new units,thats just great,reminds me also of Total Annihilation,still also great game.If there is some new game coming,they should release demo first THEN full game.Well i wanted to write more,but since my english sucks,forget it :-)
Since i finished Dungeon Siege 4 times,what i liked most was game engine,not monsters,not sound,but game engine,possibility to make a game without constant loading,like we have in morrowind,thats step forward.

[Adair]

sx/amiga, I don't take offense to anything you've ever said. So no worries.
Anyway, you've got a very valid point about developers possibly getting frustrated by the short attention spans of the consumers. Its sad, but basically unavoidable. People aren't going to play games they find boring no matter how much time and effort the developers put into it.

And I know that post wasn't completely directed at me personally, but just for the record:
I think Morrowind is a great game overall, but its not balanced very well. I don't even mind very much that its repetative(all the NPC's say very similar things), but my character who is around level 30 is basically godlike in the world or Morrowind. I play games for a challenge, but in Morrowind I can kill just about anything in 1-3 hits and the enemies barely even hurt me. I must say that the environments still blow me away with their detail.
And I'm not wondering why there are no great PC games. I don't feel that way at all. I'm very happy with GTA3 right now, but will probably become bored with it before long, but I know there will be another game to take its place by the time that happens. (possibly UT2k3)

[sxamiga]

Thanks for the replies guys. You both have very valid points, as do I. I guess we will have to just le "Nature" take it's course so to speak. But thanks again for listening, hearing me out, and responding. I appriecate it very much.
siincerely,
sx/amiga

[Strider]

np, i dont like looking like a fool who doesnt have anything to back up what he says

[Adair]

Actually I enjoyed reading your posts. I had never thought about developers frustration before in that way. So you opened my eyes to something new, which IMO can't be bad.
thanks,
Adair

[sxamiga]

Glad that you learned something Adair, I too welcome the chance to learn new things.
Strider, you did a fine job of backing up what you said and you and Adair opened my eyes as well. Thank you both as well.:)
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[Strider]

this is one of the first discussions ive had which me and another person made opposite opinions about a game and argued but didnt end up in a big dispute