FF8 GF's

[Nameless]

HIII!!! What decides the power of the summon attacks? Mag? and who r the best charecters? Thanks

[Recca]

basicly Riona is the best and mag is the source of the GF's strenght.

But junction a good magic to mag status and they will all be great

[fivefeet8]

Anyone can have powerful magic if their magic stat is high.. As for Gardian Forces, their level and the summon magic % skills makes them more powerful.. REmember the % skills add on to each other.. So don't get rid of the 10% when you get 30% since it actually added 10% power to your gardian force..

[Zell]

Also the level of the GF makes them more powerfull .

[Ninjaa]

I just used physical attacks. If you junction properly, your attacks are far more powerful than a GF.

[Ayu-zrepiV]

Originally posted by Ninja
I just used physical attacks. If you junction properly, your attacks are far more powerful than a GF.

but it's always good to see shiva use her diamond dust... *drools*

[Iran]

if you are playing ff8 now and wants to experiment with the gf abilities and characters, you can use this save game. all of the characters stats are at max except for hit, evade, and hp but squall, rinoa, and ervin hps are at max and it has all the important items from the game are already here, i think except for the card.

evade stats at 40%-52% will already evade almost all physical attacks

[Iran]

forgot to upload the file and i cant use the edit to upload the file on my previous post

[Ayu-zrepiV]

hmm... seems like squaresoft tends to give you "un-useful" items or "rewards" when you beat bosses or do "special" tasks.

like in ff8, when you beat the omega weapon, you get a pretty crappy, *yet fun to boast about* "plaque" of proving that you beat the omega weapon. even the card game, i got all the cards, and i got a lousy star beside the card menu. lol.

hm, nothing to complain about though, loved the games, and will love the future games

[fujita]

For all GF summoners out there that love to use GF. Don't forget to BOOST ! It's one way to increase the damage of your GF.

[fivefeet8]

Originally posted by Iran
if you are playing ff8 now and wants to experiment with the gf abilities and characters, you can use this save game. all of the characters stats are at max except for hit, evade, and hp but squall, rinoa, and ervin hps are at max and it has all the important items from the game are already here, i think except for the card.

evade stats at 40%-52% will already evade almost all physical attacks

Or you could easily use PEC and some gameshark codes to give you max stats for all stats..

[Nameless]

Nah, I don't want to cheat. So, the stats that increase a GFs power is mag....And I meant, which party of three did u guys prefair?? My last run through the game was Zell, Squall and Riona. U?

[Ninjaa]

Rinoa, Selphie, Squall. I basically balanced my team based upon who was the most pleasing on the eyes. ;) I just couldn't get rid of Squall. hehe.

[Ayu-zrepiV]

Originally posted by Nameless
Nah, I don't want to cheat. So, the stats that increase a GFs power is mag....And I meant, which party of three did u guys prefair?? My last run through the game was Zell, Squall and Riona. U?

Quistis (blue magic is good *shockwave pulsar is the best move in the game, yet, hard to get*)
Squall (best attack damage with the lionheart, if he didn't have this, i wouldn't use him)
and Rinoa (using summons on her is pretty good, as well as magics)

[Iran]

Originally posted by fivefeet8


Or you could easily use PEC and some gameshark codes to give you max stats for all stats..

yeah use PEC and gameshark for FF8 PC

[total_hatred]

why use gf when limit breaks will do the job
it is faster and more damaging

[Strider]

i found a little way to cheat in ff8 with the limit breaks... well i know this works for ff8 pc version atleast... when youre in a battle, keep 1 or 2 of the characters at little hps so he can do limit breaks, if his/her turn comes and you dont see the limit break arrow just keep pressing the skip turn button... no time will pass and it will cycle through your active characters again... and the one who is doing the limit break will still be active since you never used his turn

[total_hatred]

that is already old news
I exploited that trickeverytime I play
you must at most 30% life to execute a limit break
even your life is not yet yellow or red
you can execute it

[Demigod]

The frequency of limit breaks depends on the amount of HP you have. The chances will increase as your HP decreases and even if you're at 50% health or higher there's a very small chance you'll get it. I used the same trick for fighting tricky opponents (just barrage them with Renzokuken) but once you obtain the Aura spell you don't need this trick anymore.

[Florindel]

And if your HP are low, you can always use your limit (just switch characters and you'll get the limit)

[REi_FoX]

yeah it also affects the spirit stat, if yoor spirit is high you could do a limit break even your hp is at half

[Nameless]

Also, I remember there being an item (a stone or something) that gives u a better chance at having the limit break earlier in battle.....I still think Final Fantasy 7's limit break system was the best (atleast balanced). But nothing gave summoning a better share than FF8.

[G-Pitts]

Without GF, your character only has attack command and very weak and low stat :)

[Nameless]

exactly, now if they gave them more...personality...maybe some raising-like game (aka. Digimon;Pokemon). It would have been a rather cool mini-game, no?

[G-Pitts]

Originally posted by Nameless
exactly, now if they gave them more...personality...maybe some raising-like game (aka. Digimon;Pokemon). It would have been a rather cool mini-game, no?

Its cool but funny. It just like making fun of the great Guardian Force :)

[Laguna Loire]

How, exactly, do you get Shockwave Pulsar? Is that what you need 100 curse spikes and Siren at level 100 for?

[fujita]

That's right. Shockwave Pulsar is Quistis ultimate Blue Magic, and one of the three spells/moves in the game that can cause 5 digit damage in one shot.

[G-Pitts]

And GF Griever has this attack!!

[fivefeet8]

Originally posted by Laguna Loire
How, exactly, do you get Shockwave Pulsar? Is that what you need 100 curse spikes and Siren at level 100 for?

Yep.. But you need to be able(skills) to change those 100 curse spikes into an item that will give Quistis her final limit break.. Takes off about 40,000 hp..

[Laguna Loire]

what's the third attack that hits 5 digits? I know shockwave pulsar and Eden, but what's the last?

[fivefeet8]

The Cactuar Attack GF can take off 10,000 hp when he is at level 100.. :) NIce and funny..

Of course no other move in this game can take off as much as the Lion Heart limit break.. That thing can take off 150,000+ hpts when you add all the hits up..

[Macaijah]

Actually, Zell's Limit could potentially be the most powerful. If you had 12 seconds to execute it and each hit did 5000 damage and you were really quick at executing the moves...

lets do a little math:

say it takes .20 seconds per move--thats 5 moves per second. with 12 seconds thats about 60 moves. 60 moves X 5000 damager per move = 300,000 damage not including the critical hits. 1/6 of the time I pulled off a Critical hit which did 9999, so lets add that to the equation as well. That's a roughly 350,000. If you're skeptical, it sure worked for me against the omega weapon. at level 8, zell whooped him in with only a few limit breaks. Now keep in mind some people are very fast and could most likely shave down their time to .10 seconds per move. Now that's *double* the damage I listed here.

[ShADoWFLaRe85]

Wow, that's just insane!

[fujita]

Yep, if you can master Zell's limit breaks, you can match Squall's Lion Heart in term of damage. And the good thing is, it won't be influenced by certain probability like Lion Heart. You can do Renzokuken many times, and you might not get Lion Heart after more than 10 tries. But with Zell, you will always get the moves you wanted (if you good enough with the buttons), because the arrangement of the moves have been set accordingly.

[G-Pitts]

To do this kind of damage in a short time you need to repeat "Booya" and "Punch Rush". This is the fastest move to execute and can do a good damage per move. My highest record with this move in 12 second is about 420,000 in one limit break (thats insane). I can take out Omega Weapon with just 2 Zell limit break, one lion heart and irvine shot limit.

[REi_FoX]

you still need 3 turns???

you can defeat weapon with one turn with squall... just use lion heart and thas all... i can make a damage of 260,000+ in limit break...

[Demigod]

Omega weapon has a lot more HP than that. I think you're thinking of Ultima Weapon.

[Ultragunner]

about a million i think.

well its really cool if you have the japanese version of the game.
why? because of the junction bug.

[Macaijah]

Don't confuse Ultima with Omega. I had read everywhere that Ultima was oh-so difficult, but when I actually faced him, I laughed because he did pathetic damage. He was owned with one turn of Zell's limit. I didn't laugh, however, When I pulled off a near perfect limit on Omega with zell and he didn't die, and I certainly wasn't laughing when he did terra break. If you're quick enough though, you can take him out before he does terra break using a few of zell's limits just as G-Pitts stated above. It kinda gives you a nice feeling knowing that you destroyed the hardest boss in the game without using Rinoa's invincible moon, the hero item or the holy war. That, in my opinion, is just too cheap.

[fujita]

In my humble opinion, about the difficulty between Ultima and Omega. Ultima is acceptable but Omega is difficult. Ultima can be beaten, if you're using certain tactics and has lower HP. Omega also can be beaten ONLY with certain tactics, but that doesn't mean that you will win in just one try. To beat Ultima, you need strength and tactics. But to beat Omega, you will need strength, tactics and luck. ;) What made Omega as a hard boss? Terra Break, of course and it's high HP. Beat these two factors and you'll win. How? This is where tactics play its role.

[G-Pitts]

Omega weapon has about 1 million+ of HP IIRC. The higher your level the more his HP.