Gamecube

[Darkhound]

Has any played the gamecube or seen it in action? its just i thought it would be about £300 but i just saw it advertised in game for £170 and i was thinking of getting one.

Anyone know if its worth it?

[Dark Watcher]

If you are patient enough...some goodies are coming for GameCube in the next few months....right now there are not many good games for it....but a few are good...

[ustasatin]

Or X-box. I saw some of the screenshots - they are perfect. You know the one -> Time is money

[Syed Fawad]

I'll advise you to get a PS2. You won't have to wait for anything as there are many games available already, in fact you'll have to catch up.

[Kane]

I'd say skip the X-Box, and get a Cube or a PS2. the X-Box seems to be somewhat... microsoft, sorry I mean buggy. This is going to discourage gamers and developers alike.

[ShADoWFLaRe85]

Originally posted by Lord Kane
I'd say skip the X-Box, and get a Cube or a PS2. the X-Box seems to be somewhat... microsoft, sorry I mean buggy. This is going to discourage gamers and developers alike.
The funny thing about X-Box is that it actually freezes. I'm serious! I've walked by a demo unit in a store before and seen the entire game locked up. It's definitely got a Windows core in there. It's not NT, either ;)

[raekwon thachef]

a freind of mine has a gamecube and we have played about every game released on it so far and well im not impressed with the number of games i am impressed how much smoother than a ps2 it is (i can tell from the THPS# and james bond gamecube ports)as compared to the ps versions of these games id reccomend buying a cube seeing as they will have awesomegamescoming out

[Ayu-zrepiV]

ps2... ps2... ps2... ps2...

even though gamecube and xbox has pretty nice graphics and some good games, ps2 has niec graphics and a hell lot of good games, so, do what lord kane said... get ps2 over them [i know he said get ps2 or gamecube but... i prefer ps2 so :P]

[Bahamut_Zero]

yeah i recommend ps2 too, it has so many great games, especially rpg games

[ShADoWFLaRe85]

Playstation 2!!
Final Fantasy X!
Devil May Cry!
Gran Turismo 3!
Grand Theft Auto 3!
Metal Gear Solid 2!

Need I say more? :)

[Chrono Archangel]

Well unlike the others I say you should buy the GameCube! Just wait a while and awesome games are gonna come out. You'll have Zelda, Metroid and Starfox. And in my point of view i think the graphics are better looking on the NGC

[ShADoWFLaRe85]

Originally posted by Chrono_Archange
You'll have Zelda, Metroid and Starfox.
That's about all you'll have :p

[mattybones]

I suggest the game cube i played it two days before christmas and i played the x-box but i though the gc had better games and the xbox had good graphics but I think the gc had better i played l smash bros melee and i basically s$it my self :eek: and i played some munches game maybe its me i was raised on nintendo my first system was the nes and my last will most deffinetly be a nintendo i dont like playstion besides metal gear solid(1and2) and both lunar games but nintendo is the choice;)

[Ninjaa]

The PS2 just doesn't have the 3rd party support that its predecessor had. For God's sakes, get the GameCube. There is just no good reason for getting a PS2 unless you are just too impatient to wait until June for Nintendo's killer games. You basically have a choice right here and now.

Get the PS2 now, and get all the good games for PS2 made to date.
Final Fantasy X
Metal Gear Solid 2
Silent Hill 2
Onimusha
Devil May Cry

Or get the GameCube now, and get the games you know you will need when they come out.

Resident Evil
Eternal Darkness
Metroid Prime
Perfect Dark 0
Conker's Other Bad Fur Day
Zelda
Star Fox Adventures
Mario Sunshine
Final Fantasy Unlimited

I can almost guarantee you right now that almost any decent game for PS2 or Xbox WILL be coming to GameCube from this day forward. However, there are MANY games for GameCube which will never see another console. The choice is entirely yours, but if you are a big time fan of any of the games listed, then you will just have to get a GameCube to play them on. However, the odds are VERY good that the next Metal Gear will be for Nintendo as well, and expect to see a LOT of Sega and Capcom games for GameCube as well as a healthy dishing from Square and Enix.

The choice is yours, but choose wisely, and be mindful of the future.

[Darkhound]

Originally posted by ShADoWFLaRe85
Playstation 2!!
Final Fantasy X!
Devil May Cry!
Gran Turismo 3!
Grand Theft Auto 3!
Metal Gear Solid 2!

Need I say more? :)


ok you've convinced me :D anyway ive seen the X-Box running 2 of its "killer apps" Halo and Gotham racer or whatever it is, and i was VERY unnimpressed, the graphics are grainy and blurred, but maybe ive just been using a moniter too long

also all these gamecube games dont interest me, ive never likes Zelda or conkers bad fur day, and perfect dark was pretty mediocre in my view. Resident evil is tempting but i would go for FFX over the FF for the gamecube, i just thought that the gamecube might be a bit more mature but it seems it has all teh same types of game as the N64 :/

[Zell]

Gamecube , is a good choice !! Good Games and aceptable price .

[ShADoWFLaRe85]

I'd have to agree about the price of a GameCube. It's not too bad to where I'd consider myself to have wasted tons of cash on a system I end up not liking. X-Box would definitely make you feel screwed over.

[Kane]

Well, if my brother's one impresses me, I might pick one up, but I already have one current Gen console, so I'll probs wait a bit.

[Ninjaa]

Darkhound, keep in mind that the ONLY RPG series that the PS2 has to offer is Final Fantasy. Nintendo has some of the RPG greats.

Dragon Quest VIII (highly likely to be GameCube bound)
Earthbound (it's coming.)
Breath of Fire (Capcom and Nintendo have been VERY close as of late.)

Seriously, if you think that the Gamecube has ANY similarities with the N64, then you are seriously mistaken.

You might also want to check out the Eternal Darkness previews as well. If you are a Resident Evil or Silent Hill fan, you will love this game. Keep in mind also, that if you DO want to play Resident Evil, you will have to do it on the GameCube. Capcom only makes those games for GameCube.

In essence, I am saying this:

GameCube!
Final Fantasy XI!
Final Fantasy Unlimited!
Devil May Cry 2!
Grand Theft Auto 3!
Metal Gear Solid 3!
Dragon Quest VIII!
Resident Evil!
Need I say more?

GTA3 may yet be released on GameCube. It will remain to be seen at this year's E3.

Dragon Quest VIII is still in the air, but it is looking like GameCube is the favorite right now. Enix and Nintendo are still pretty close, and rumor has it that Enix hates the PS2.

Metal Gear Solid 3, as well as whatever project Hideo Kojima is working on right now are almost guaranteed to be for GameCube. Kojima himself said as much.

Expect to see a lot of Final Fantasy on the GameCube. Probably not FFX, but probably a lot of the future games.

Devil May Cry, Resident Evil, and the like are made by Capcom. Capcom actually made the last two Zelda games for GBC. Don't expect to see Capcom and Nintendo break up with eachother anytime soon. If you liked DMC, a sequel will probably be for GameCube.

[Kane]

Only RPGs on the PS2 is Final Fantasy? Piffle! There is broadcasting the truth and there is being a fanboy.
IIRC, FFXI is due only on PS2 and PC.
As to other RPGs? Grandia 2 is being released soon, and these were obtained from an RPG-a-holic website:
Arc the Lad Online (working title) - 2002, Arc the Lad: Twilight of Spirits - Fall, Dragon Quest VIII March 2004 Enix, Final Fantasy XII Q3 2003?, G-Breaker 3rd Cloud Taisen April, Generation of Chaos Next April 25 Grandia Xtreme October 30, Kingdom Hearts September 17, Legaia: Duel Saga October 1, Sakura Taisen Online 2002?, Skies of Arcadia (Eternal Arcadia) 2003 Star Ocean 3: Till the End of Time Q4 2002?, Suikoden III Summer, Summoner 2 September 10, Tales of Destiny 2 (tentative) Q4 2002, Xenosaga, Wild ARMs Advanced 3rd.

[zerocopy]

Xenosaga, i heard its a sequel/prequel to the original xenogears from the psx. Even the the developers are from the same branch that made xenogears. Cant wait for this game to come out. Oh! one more thing get the ps2.

[Ninjaa]

I meant that Final Fantasy was pretty much the only franchise that remains semi-exclusive to Sony. Of course that can be taken to mean all the other Square games, such as Kingdom Hearts, Tales of Destiny, Xenosaga, and whatever else Square makes. However, it must be noted that Square is ALSO making games for GameCube now.

Dragon Quest VIII - Still in the air, as I said.

Final Fantasy XI - Square has said repeatedly that they need to make it across ALL platforms. I am assuming this means an Xbox version as well, but it is yet to be announced in any way. Square has said that they are currently making two GameCube games. I am assuming that one of those is FFXI. It's the only one that makes sense.

Grandia - Unfortunately, I know ZERO about this game.

Skies of Arcadia - The GameCube version will be out LONG before the PS2 version.

Suikoden - Another game I know zero about.

Arc the Lad - Never heard of it.

Star Ocean 3 - I HOPE this game comes to GameCube. Sorry for forgetting this one. I really would have mentioned it had I remembered it.

That about covers it eh?

[Kane]

Here (on the same site) is what it says about the cube
Evolution Worlds Spring 2002 Sting Ubi Soft
Goldstar Mountain N/A May From Software From Software
Gothic N/A Fall Xicat Int. Xicat Int.
Kameo: Elements of Power 2002 N/A Rare Nintendo
The Legend of Zelda [tentative title] Q2 2003 December 2002 Nintendo Nintendo
Lost Kingdoms [Rune] Q3 2002 April 25 From Software Activision
Mage N/A Fall BAM! Ent. BAM! Ent.
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Summer/Fall July Sonic Team Sega
Skies of Arcadia [Eternal Arcadia] Q2 2002 Q2 2002 Overworks/Point of View Sega

[Ninjaa]

Hmm... Half of those games I had forgotten about. I had to look them up to make sure they were real. LOL!

Here's the OFFICIAL GameCube RPG list:
May 28, 2002 Lost Kingdoms
Q2 2002 Phantasy Star Online Episodes I & II
UNKNOWN Skies of Arcadia
UNKNOWN Virtua Fighter Quest
UNKNOWN Gold Star Mountain

If you include Adventure games into that however....

June 24, 2002 Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
September 2002 Star Fox Adventures
Q4 2002 Darkened Skye
Q4 2002 Zelda GC
Year 2002 Doshin the Giant
Year 2002 Harvest Moon
Year 2002 Kameo: Elements of Power
UNKNOWN Animal Leader
UNKNOWN Animal Crossing

If you include RUMORED games...

RUMOR Conker's Bad Fur Day 2
RUMOR Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance
RUMOR Star Wars RPG
RUMOR Dragon Quest VIII


Note that this list does not include Final Fantasy. At the moment, not enough is known to fit it into any list.

[Kane]

Here is the complete PS2 list from the site. It shows name, US release date (if Known), Jap release date, publisher
.hack Volume 1 - Infection Expansion October 16 June CyberConnect2 Bandai
.hack Volume 2 - Malignant Mutation Q4 2002 September CyberConnect2 Bandai
.hack Volume 3 - Erosion Pollution Q1 2003 December CyberConnect2 Bandai
.hack Volume 4 - Absolute Encirclement Q1 2003 March 2003 CyberConnect2 Bandai
Apsaras N/A N/A Koei Koei
Arc the Lad Online (working title) N/A 2002? SCEJ SCEJ
Arc the Lad: Twilight of Spirits N/A Fall SCEJ SCEJ
Dragon Quest VIII N/A March 2004 Enix Enix
Final Fantasy XI Online Q4 2002? May 16 Squaresoft Square EA
Final Fantasy XII Q3 2003? Q1 2003? Squaresoft Square EA
G-Breaker 3rd Cloud Taisen N/A April Sunrise Interactive Sunrise Interactive
Generation of Chaos Next N/A April 25 Idea Factory Idea Factory
Grandia Xtreme October 30 January 31 Game Arts/Enix Enix
Judie no Atelier: The Alchemist of Gramnat N/A June Gust Gust
Kidou Shinsengumi Moeyo Ken N/A TBA Enterbrain Enterbrain
Kingdom Hearts September 17 March 28 Squaresoft/Disney Square EA
Legaia: Duel Saga October 1 November 28, 2001 Contrail Fresh Games (Eidos)
Lilie no Atelier Plus: The Alchemist of Salburg 3 N/A April 4 Gust Gust
Nobunaga's Ambition online RPG (working title) N/A 2002? Koei Koei
PopoloCrois Monogatari III: Hajimari no bouken N/A June 20 SCEI SCEI
RPG Tsukuru (Maker) 5 July 1 Summer Enterbrain Tommo
Sakura Taisen Online N/A 2002? Red/Overworks Sega
Sakura Taisen Series N/A 2002? Red/Overworks Sega
Shin Megami Tensei III (tentative) N/A 2002 Atlus Atlus
Skies of Arcadia (Eternal Arcadia) 2003 2003 Overworks Sega
Star Ocean 3: Till the End of Time Q4 2002? Summer? tri-Ace Enix
Suikoden III September 10 (?) Summer Konami Konami
Suikoden Online (tentative) N/A N/A Konami Konami
Summoner 2 September 10 N/A Volition THQ
Super Robot Wars Impact N/A March 28 Banpresto Banpresto
Tales of Destiny 2 (tentative) N/A Q4 2002 Namco Namco
Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side N/A June 20 Konami Konami
Tokimeki Memorial Online (tentative) N/A 2002 Konami Konami
Xenosaga - Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht 2002 February 28 MonolithSoft Namco
Xenosaga - Episode II TBA Q1 2003 MonolithSoft Namco
Xenosaga - Episode III TBA Q1 2004 MonolithSoft Namco
Xenosaga - Episode IV TBA Q1 2005 MonolithSoft Namco
Xenosaga - Episode V [Xenogears] TBA Q1 2006 MonolithSoft Namco
Xenosaga - Episode VI TBA Q1 2007 MonolithSoft Namco
Wild ARMs Advanced 3rd Summer? March 14 Contrail Sony
And here are the PS1 ones
Arc the Lad Collection April 13 Various G-Craft/SCEJ Working Designs
Dragon Warrior Monsters I & II N/A May 30 Enix Enix
Knights of Genesis N/A TBA Ascott Ascott
Startling Odyssey II: War of the Demon-Dragons N/A TBA Ray Force Ray Force
Startling Odyssey III: Holy War of the Millennium N/A TBA Ray Force Ray Force

[Ryos]

Gah, there is no point in doing a battle to the death with lists of Japanese RPGs, especially when quite a few of the Japanese titles (Tokimemo... :( But why is it on the RPG list? :p) won't be released elsewhere. Just leave it at both the GC and the PS2 will get their fair share of RPGs at some point down the road.

[Raziel]

In the close future,GameCube will be THE system to get,and even if Sony wants to strike back sooner than expected with its PS3,I think it will fail,because of the fact that the PS3 will be much more multimedia oriented thatn the PS2 already is,which means it will be a computer looking like a console :D (Xbox anyone?)

[ShADoWFLaRe85]

Originally posted by Ryos
Gah, there is no point in doing a battle to the death with lists of Japanese RPGs, especially when quite a few of the Japanese titles (Tokimemo... :( But why is it on the RPG list? :p) won't be released elsewhere. Just leave it at both the GC and the PS2 will get their fair share of RPGs at some point down the road.
Hehe..."battle to the death" I like the sound of that :)
Nobody's been hurt too badly yet, have they? ;)

[Ninjaa]

I've been doing a lot of Xbox fanboy killing on other boards. hehe.

but I'd just like to note that the only Japanese only RPG I put on my list was Doshin the Giant, and there is a chance it will be coming to the US.

[mattybones]

there are alot of rumors that the finalfantasy is coming to the gamecube but i honestley doubt that i am a final fantasy fan but i love nintendo and it was a nintendo must in 1995 but playstation has it now we must move on playstation is money grubbing blood suckers and all of the playstation lovers out there remeber nintendo was the first and it always be the best. it was before the ps and dont forget it betamax called the add-on to the snes the"PlayStation eXtreme" it would have been called the snes extreme it was for the snes

nintendo rocks

mattybones

[Ninjaa]

It's official. Final Fantasy is coming to Nintendo. The first games should be out by the end of the year. So far the only games announced are Final Fantasy Tactics (GBA), and an original GameCube Final Fantasy.

[Nightmare]

IF you have tons of times and tons of money, buy a ps2 since it has so many good games. Besides that, u can invest the money that u have nowhere to spend on the ps2 games ;)

I am a poor guy with little times left for gaming, so if i were u, i will buy a gamecube, buy one game, and enjoy the game for atleast one month, and then save some money, search for another game, then play it for another one month.

p/s Yes, i play one game every one or two months now, i don't care how much games or how few games a console has, since i don't have money to buy them and don't have times to enjoy all of them :p

[GameMakerJon]

I happen to like the X-Box and what it has to offer, particularly its online plans. I aslo like the Game Cube and what it has to offer, being it's first party titles and its rpg's. PS2 really doesn't have anything going for it except some of its rpg's. Why anyone would want to buy an outdated, underpowered, pile of junk like the PS2 is beyond me. I happen to be one of the unlucky few who has experienced what we might call a "problem" with it. Namely scratched discs, unreadable dvd's and PS2 games. As of right now Sony has done nothing but let me down time and time again. Oh and the kicker is, (drum roll please) Sony denies everything. What a company folk's. And how is it that Microsoft is the supreme evil and Sony can get away scott free with crap like this? It blows my mind.

I know some of you fanboys are going to say "But Mr. GameMakerJon, look at all the great games like FFX and MGS 2." Yeah what about them? Sorry but if that's Square's idea of a good rpg, then I would love to know what they were smokin, cause i could sure use some right now. And as far as MGS2 goes? First off it's comin to the xbox and pc. Second, I dont hand over fifty dollars for every lame, rehashed pile of junk. The story was weak, the plot was weak, and it offered no true innovations over the first game (which I happened to have enjoyed).

Now lets look at whats coming in the future. Hmmm...... a few RPG's, an action title or two. Oh look FFXI....Yay, lets all pitch in together and buy a modem so I can pay 50 bucks for the game and ten more a month, just to play it. Lovely. Nintendo has almost every single one of its franchises getting an update on the Gamecube, plus some strong 3rd party support as pointed out by Ninja. So I say go with a Gamecube cause the PS2 is done.

[Syed Fawad]

That's said, okay done.....

If anyone has a PS2 okay fine and dandy, He'll enjoy it for the years to come. Good games are coming on it. Now the question is which is the console to buy right now.

Depends on your taste. As I and Ninja have discussed it many a times, besdies RE there isn't even a single title on GC that appeals to me. Either I am not getting good coverage on the internet or all the gaming websites have been paid by Sony or whatever.

Keeping fanboyism aside, PS2 is a great deal for 200$ now. Call it crappy but u'll get a DVD player, for ppl like me who rarely watch movies, this was a great thing, also you'll get a PS1 for free. Besides this the games of PS2 aren't as bad as being ranted here.
I have a really unique taste of gaming. I like quick games with no lenght and story and PS2 have these in more than excess. TM, WWE, Crciket, GTAs, etc.

As for the adventure games, well I haven't seen FFx as of yet and neither I am interested in MGS2. I haven't even touched MGS1. I have never played an FF game as of yet. I usually don't play long games, but the all time hits like RE series and Deus Ex made me play a few long games. So there u have Devil may cry (1 and 2) and RE CVX (which I haven't played yet). After reading previews, I found out that Silent Hill 2 and 3 are going to be good subtitutes for RE on PS2. Also rumours are that GTA is going PS2 exclusive.

Then onto the fighting section. Besides the old DOA2, we have Tekkens and Virtua Fighters, and this genre is appealing to me. A good fighting game, Soul Calibur 2 is coming on GC, and so it is also on PS2. Any fighting for GC?

Then last but not the least, WWE. The WWe games I saw on Xbox(Raw) and Gamecube( Wrestlmania X8) are absolutely nothing as compared to the PS2s Smackdown4 (Suplex from the top of the ladder onto the table on the outside, awesome stuff) and also Smackdown 4 is exclusive to PS2. Also Smackdown JBI is another awesome game.

As far as GC is concerned, nope, I haven't seeen the real thing as these haven't arrived here yet. By the time they come here I'll pick up one for sure as I am no fanboy. But the only games accompanying it will be the REs.

For multiplatform games, yup others do look better than PS2 for sure. No doubt. But this doesn't mean that the ones on PS2 look bad, I say "Why argue over the best when u can have Damn good?"

[Ninjaa]

Alright, I am now going to keep listing games (that I hate), until I find one that you like other than Resident Evil. I know that the GameCube has plenty of software for all types of gamers, I just need to find exactly what it is that you like to play. How about some of these?

Fighting

Bloody Roar: Primal Fury
Capcom Vs. SNK 2: EO
Super Smash Brothers Melee (A great game I must add)
Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance
Virtua Fighter Quest
X-Men: Next Dimension
UFC: Throwdown
Rocky

Wrestling

Legends of Wrestling
WWF WrestleMania X8
WWE Crush Hour

What other genres are you interested in? Here's mainly what there is for fighting and wrestilng.

[Syed Fawad]

Capcom Vs. SNK 2: EO is 2D and Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance is gonna be on PS2, rest can't live up to the quality of Tekken4.

For wrestling...Already told u about WrestlmaniX8 that it sux compared to Smackdown on PS2, Legend of wrestling is a stupid game and its sequel is on the PS2 too, then Crush Hour, WWE car combat game is also on PS2.

Got more? RE is the best and I say that RE defines the GC.

[Ninjaa]

I was just watching footage from the new 007 game. It looks very interesting. Hopefully it will be better than Agent Under Fire (too easy, kind of short)

Anyway, here's another genre I know you like.

Racing

XG3 Extreme G Racing
Smuggler's Run: Warzones
Ridge Racer (tentative name)
Smashing Drive
NASCAR Thunder 2003
NASCAR Heat 2: Road to the Championship
Mario Kart GCN
Burnout 2
Burnout
Donkey Kong Racing
Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2


Capcom vx SNK 2 is supposed to have new features for GCN, such as a new GCism fighting style.

Now, as for Wrestlemania X8, I really can't comment with any intelligence, since I have never picked up a wrestling game in my life. Yet this is what IGN has to say about it.


Really, the grapple system and speed of X8 is where its appeal lies. It feels a lot like the previous N64 titles from THQ and this is a very good thing. Ametuers can jump right into the game with results, and seasoned veterans have enough to explore with special moves and reversals. That said, we're still highly anticipating X8 for its upcoming June release. It's exclusive to GameCube and something all wrestling fans should keep an eye out for.


Sounds decent to me. And it's exclusive. Here's a few screens.

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/2002-03-19-wrestlemaniaxclusive1.jpg

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/2002-03-19-wrestlemaniaxclusive3.jpg

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/2002-03-19-wrestlemaniaxclusive2.jpg

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/2002-03-19-wrestlemaniaxclusive7.jpg

[Syed Fawad]

Poof, that's exactly what it is "Sucka" :D

U know nothing about WWE, so I won't rant here.

NFS will be on PS2, rest aren't that good.

For WWE, IGN SUX at WWE. They give Raw 9.1 and Smackdown 8.x They r stupid. They don't know what WWE fans want.

Giving a Rock bottom through two tables, cool; that's smackdown!

[Samor]

capcom vs snk 2 for GC will have an easier mode...I dunno if it will have other changes. Seems the GC is starting to get quite good in the racing department as well!

[Ninjaa]

I decided to get a second opinion on IGN's article. Planet GameCube has this to say:


Basically, I’m really disappointed with Wrestlemania X8, and I think a lot of other people are going to be disappointed when they try out their copy next month. Smackdown 4 offers better visuals on many aspects, just as many modes and arenas (if not more), and a full fledged storyline. And Smackdown 4 won’t even be a very good game.


I stand corrected. It seems that there isn't much in the way of wrestling yet. Hopefully that will be fixed with time. N64 was always good at wrestling, and I hope that's something carried over to GCN. (even though I hate the games.)

[Syed Fawad]

I have stopped believing in wrstling game reviews of other sites. I try them on my own.

For smackdown3 also I heard lotsa bad things but that game is one helluva WWE experience.

For Smackdoww 4 it is also too early to call, as there is only one demo clip avaiable of it. And to tell you the truth, If the game is anything like the demo, the perfect WWE game will finally arrive.

The WWE X8 on GC ain't bad at all, but the player animations suck. Also there are lotsa graphical issues like wrestlers going through ropes like ghosts, some of which is also found in Smackdown and this is where Raw for Xbox is best.

But he overall experience of smackdown is supreme. And who said that N64 WWE games were good, they are the worst example of WWE games. Did u ever take a look at Smackdown 1 and 2 for PS1?

[Ninjaa]

Sorry, that rant was kind of wasted on me. I don't know anything about wrestling games. I have just learned to accept the word of Planet GameCube. They are always right.

Anyways, I guess we have concluded that PS2 is the best place for wrestling games. But fighting and racing are both very close. (I would say GCN is winning in racing because of Mario Kart, and PS2 is winning fighting, simply because of Tekken 4.) Time to wait for Killer Instinct.

[Syed Fawad]

I've heard that Deus Ex 2 will also be on PS2, is it true?

[Samor]

Originally posted by Ninja
Sorry, that rant was kind of wasted on me. I don't know anything about wrestling games. I have just learned to accept the word of Planet GameCube. They are always right.

Anyways, I guess we have concluded that PS2 is the best place for wrestling games. But fighting and racing are both very close. (I would say GCN is winning in racing because of Mario Kart, and PS2 is winning fighting, simply because of Tekken 4.) Time to wait for Killer Instinct.

wait a minute...
mario kart is good, and fun...but IMO not exactly a title to define the racing genre. It's more the fun-factor that counts in that game.

But the Ridge Racer Game is almost certain to become very good, the past titles have proven that. Same goes for NFSHP2. So far the GC lacks a bit on the realistic driving department, but I read Codemasters is going to jump in and I'm sure they'll cover that ;)

As for fighting...dunno..I think they will be evenly matched...and in that case the GC gets a bonus point for graphical appearance.

[Cless]

Originally posted by Syed Fawad
I've heard that Deus Ex 2 will also be on PS2, is it true?

depends if it uses good enigne if so then no..deus ex one is coming the bs2 a little late..god that deus ex will stuck on a console.

[Syed Fawad]

The only problem with DeusEx1 on the BS2 I mean PS2 is the loading, there is too much loading, again the loading times are also less than the ones on the PC.

[Cless]

loading times:confused: no such thing on the comp version..even a bs2 lackie called it the correct name. i look to see what engine dues ex 2 uses if it the morrowind enigne or better the bs2 wont see it unless you don't mind getting the skiping.

[Syed Fawad]

R u kindding, forgot the loading time in mid stages in Deus Ex?
The frequency will increase.

[Cless]

look at my pc(look at my sig)...i rarely have loading times.

[Syed Fawad]

look at my pc(look at my profile)...i rarely don't have loading times :D