FFX, Im a bit dissapointed..

[Xeven]

Im almost done playing, just have to battle the final boss.. and a bit dissapointed with the game.. ohh well..

[Hanamichi]

The Battles are quite boring .. all you have to do is bring the right character out and the monsters are done for, other than those biggies at the end of the game. The storyline is nice though

[Ryos]

Why in the world is no one willing to use the new game discussion forum? :confused: That's exactly where this thread belongs.

[Shiori]

Originally posted by Xeven
Im almost done playing, just have to battle the final boss.. and a bit dissapointed with the game.. ohh well..

You should've bought TM3 instead. :evil:

[Demigod]

FF IX wasn't exactly what I was expecting either. The characters were super-deformed and bland, the battles were slow, and I didn't much like the abilities. The character classes could have used a bit more work. Zidane was way too powerful for a Thief, Amarant wasn't anything like a Monk, and they should have made Eiko a time mage or something, not another white mage/summoner. I also wanted to see the return of some of the old spells like Meteo and Ultima but that didn't happen. The story wasn't bad, but I got more thrills and chills playing FF VII than I did FF IX. As a hardcore, old-style FF player I was disappointed, and the cartoonish characters diappointed most of the PS fans who had been dazzled by the graphical splendor of FF VIII.

[ChrisRay]

I was kinda disapointed in ff9, I have it and have still not played it. lol

I'll get around to it eventually..

[Hanamichi]

I still think FF7 is the best , in terms of gameplay.

[Xeven]

Originally posted by Ryos
Why in the world is no one willing to use the new game discussion forum? :confused: That's exactly where this thread belongs.

okay, so i didn't know it was there.. :p

Demigod: yeah, i also didn't have that 'can't stop playing even if i haven't slept for 3 days' kinda feel with FFX, i guess the last time i had that was with FFVII, been downhill from there to ff8 and ff9.. *sigh* .. hehe. That's why my is FFVII.

Shiori: maybe someday.. :p

[RhombusYSS]

Originally posted by Xeven

i also didn't have that 'can't stop playing even if i haven't slept for 3 days' kinda feel with FFX, i guess the last time i had that was with FFVII, been downhill from there to ff8 and ff9.. *sigh* .. hehe.

I definitely agree with that. Although I personally like FF9 more than FF8 - thought it had much better story and I actually kinda like the cartoonish graphics. I'm still undecided about whether FF6 of FF7 is my favorite though. FF6 was a gigantic game... with all those characters... but still had awesome plot, good character development, and the usual great music. FF7 had all that AND the fact that by jumping to the PS it had superior graphics and sound and was more of an immersive multimedia gaming experience - only thing is, it's not as big or as wide open as FF6 was.

If FF6 was actually re-MADE, not just ported (damn Anthology got my hopes up for nothin, just some movie clips) it would be hands down my favorite, but because of the huge difference, I'll still have to call it a draw between FF6 and FF7.

[Xeven]

yeah, I love FF6 too, and even if it's not re-made i think its one of the best maybe even the best FF ever.. :)

[Bgnome]

yeah, i have to put down ffx every once in a while and go do something else. but its not too bad when i take it up again. theres a few extras and theres these friggin dark aeons that wipe me out every time but it hasnt gotten me that down yet..

[Xeven]

yeah, maybe i just need to finish up on all the sidequests and stuff like that.. but it'l prolly take me a LONG time since those monsters that guy creates are really really strong.. heck i haven't defeated any of them yet.. :heh:

[Exodus]

so is FF10 harder than the recent past titles?

[Cless]

what do you mean by harder? I don't think is. And is the worst final fanatasy ever and yes I have ever single one. FFX was better than I thought would be then agian I thought it would a pile crap..but was a decent game. Could have some orignal ideas. Every thing for possible the sphere grind was a rip from some other game.

[ToM_E]

O well...even if ur dissaponited I would say a RPG game is all about the story. The Story is very nice...best outta all FF series I would say. :evil:

[ChrisRay]

I was playing this at my friends house and was somewaht disapointed as well.

So far my fav RPGS remain to be

Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
ff7
ff6
Grandia 2

[Xeven]

Originally posted by ToM_E
O well...even if ur dissaponited I would say a RPG game is all about the story. The Story is very nice...best outta all FF series I would say. :evil:

the game is *too* linear i think, it doesn't give you enuff choices at all like the *old* FF's ..

[Exodus]

i found most of the PSX versions to be quite linear, at least compared to the ones on SNES.

[Cless]

ToM_E, how can you say that FFX had the best story out all the final fantasys? tactics, 6, or 5 had the best story

[Raziel]

Here we go again,the same discussion always and always.
Delita,Tom_E says so because it's HIS feeling,it's not the ABSOLUTE truth just because he says so,you too can have your own opinion.

[Bahamut_Zero]

yeah, i also like ff6, i think it has a great story

[Exodus]

lets hope you stopped that discussion from happening, Raziel. :D

[Darkhound]

ive got 7,8,9

i used to think 7 was the best, and still kinda do. 8 was cool...if 7 and 9 hadnt been around it lol, they make it look kinda crap imo. 7 is awesome, the story was excellent and the locations and characters were really cool, and Sephiroth, he has to be the coolest character ive come across in FF. But...im slowly starting to think that 9 might be my favourite, im on disc 3 and whats winning me over is the character and also the story is really good, Vivi is a great one for example. Im gonna get 6 in a week or 2 for PS sp hopefuly itll be as good, like u all say it is :)

[Raziel]

You almost made me reply something that would refuel that discussion :D .

[Xeven]

what's funny IS, the discussion is supposed to be about FFX. ;) If you don't like the topic, THEN DONT READ the damn thread. Its not like somebody is forcing you to be in IT. ;)

[Raziel]

Yup,so all I have to say is that FFX truly rocks IMHO(it's just MY opinion).

[Exodus]

i've seen about 10 minutes of it. looked like FF to me, so it must be good.

[ShADoWFLaRe85]

The biggest dissapointment to me was the removal of the world map on FFX. I feel really restricted to where I can explore. Getting the airship isn't fun anymore :(

[Xeven]

yeah, and you can't explore the world yourself either.. (i mean flying with the airship anywhere.. nd stuff like that ) :(

[Hanamichi]

I was waiting for the time where I could explore the world , and after some 30 hours of gameplay they showed me the worldmap in the airship . I was like WTF ...

The game is too colorful IMO . They should think about making more "realistic" FF's , like FF7 where there were less buildings colored like rainbow...

[Darkhound]

no world map............ :\ :\ :\

[Xeven]

well there is and with the new system its really easy to go to where you want to go. But the downside, you don't have the *fun* to go flying around the world anymore..

[Exodus]

so its similar to legend of dragoon? or is there no world map AT ALL?

[Bgnome]

i havent played LOD but the way it works is you kinda pick where you want to go on the map by the name of the location. there are some secret locations you can find by playing with coordinates but thats about it.

[Exodus]

hmmm... well i guess that is like LoD. actually, LoD is a lot like FFT's map.

[<Id>]

Are you guys kiddin? FFX is awesome. Just play the game thoroughly and try to find some of the ultimate weapons. I'm about 100 hours into the game and I must tell you this is probably one of hte best FF's yet. I like 6 a lot though.

I love the battles in FFX. They can actually be challenging compared to the older ones, like in Chrono Cross. (I don't think i've ever met a weaker final boss).

the colors don't bug me either. I think it brings a change, but it can be a good one.

I can agree about the world map though. THere should have been a more solid world to walk around. The world in FFX is very limited. I think it's awesome that it's in 3D however. The sphere grid is also sooo cool.

Just give the game a chance, try to appreciate what's there.

[Exodus]

either way, if i ever get a PS2, i'll pick up FF10. i rather decide for myself on most games, whether or not i like it.

[Xeven]

Originally posted by <Id>
Are you guys kiddin? FFX is awesome. Just play the game thoroughly and try to find some of the ultimate weapons. I'm about 100 hours into the game and I must tell you this is probably one of hte best FF's yet. I like 6 a lot though.

I love the battles in FFX. They can actually be challenging compared to the older ones, like in Chrono Cross. (I don't think i've ever met a weaker final boss).

the colors don't bug me either. I think it brings a change, but it can be a good one.

I can agree about the world map though. THere should have been a more solid world to walk around. The world in FFX is very limited. I think it's awesome that it's in 3D however. The sphere grid is also sooo cool.

Just give the game a chance, try to appreciate what's there.

hehe, well i never said it was bad.. im just... a bit dissapointed.. :p with games.. i'm not very analytical.. i just go with the 'feel' i have with it.. :)

[Exodus]

i guess thats similar to my feeling of Breath of Fire 4 and Wild Arms: boring. they may ave decent story lines, but battles are the anti-fun.

[Cless]

the battling FFX sucked. The was not new. It was amazingly easy becuase you could swap out chars.And the sphere grid was stupid. Don't let the hype get to you about the FF series

[Darkhound]

ive not played FFX cuz i dont have a PS2, but im getting a PS2 in September mainly to play this game and im willing to fork out the £200 on the merit of teh past FFs alone, cuz to my knowledge, theres not such thing as a **** FF. Everyone ive played has been awesome [6,7,8,9]

[Xeven]

and i repeat.. it's a good game actually, im just... a bit dissapointed.. that's all.. :heh:

[<Id>]

Originally posted by delita
the battling FFX sucked. The was not new. It was amazingly easy becuase you could swap out chars.And the sphere grid was stupid. Don't let the hype get to you about the FF series

I would like to see you fight for example Seymore Flux without swapping characters. It's simply impossiible. The normal battles are easier though. But Bosse get tough. Especially the Dark Aeons and the Omega Weopon. Yeah try fighting those without swapping characters. If you can show me that you can I will worship you.

[<Id>]

Originally posted by Xeven
and i repeat.. it's a good game actually, im just... a bit dissapointed.. that's all.. :heh:

I understand. It just seems as if some (other) people hate this game though.

[Cless]

you are right some of the bosses are hard but overall I was dissapointed with the battle system. Not metion on the box it said that it was anew battle system which it isn't.

[<Id>]

Oh and Darkhound... this game is definately worht your money. Even if it is just for the longlivety of this game. You can take upto over 100 hours to beat this game if you want everything and don't use guides.

[Bgnome]

how do you actually start fighting the dark aeons? they hit me for 9999 easily..

[Cless]

Originally posted by <Id>
Oh and Darkhound... this game is definately worht your money. Even if it is just for the longlivety of this game. You can take upto over 100 hours to beat this game if you want everything and don't use guides.

Most game can take 100 if you don't use a guide. And there are better game than FFX that are worth your money unless you the only thing you care about is graphics.

[Xeven]

Originally posted by Bgnome
how do you actually start fighting the dark aeons? they hit me for 9999 easily..

first o all you prolly need to have break hp limit ability.. i think.. :heh:

[si_ok]

ok, so i've read the whole thread. possible if someone can post some screens? i'd like to see the graphics. and i read teh you can get ff6 on ps. where? last time i've played ff3, ff5 on snes emu, but never saw 6. i'm told 6 was ff3, but out on ps??????????????
and is the battle system that bad? and (yes, last and you'll see) how is the mini game?

[<Id>]

Si-ok: FF3 in America is FFVI for Japan. I hope that clears out some confusion. Then you have FF Anthology which is a 2CD(?) set which has FFV & FFVI in it. You can play both FFV and FFVI on your PS then. Oh yeah... you can download the game for an emulator as well.

[<Id>]

Delita: How is the battle system not new? I mean ATB is gone, now it's CTB. Also you can switch characters whenever. The Summoned Creatures have fighting abilities rather than that you just call them. You can change your weapons whenever. And some of the battle environments are really dynamic i.e. machines to use, places to warp to, moving the ship you fight on away or nearby. I hope you now understand the "New Battle System".

[Cless]

the battle system is final fantasy tactics system just in a comand form instead of a stargety form. Final Fantas Anthology has 6 and 5. Go to gamestop.com for some screenshots of both.

[<Id>]

Bgnome: Just get raelly far on the sphere board. I've been playing for ages and all my characters have covered about 60% of the Sphere board. once you get that far your speed, evasion rate, defence, attack power, and HP are alll soooooo high that it becomes the Dark Aeon who has almost no chance. Also... try to get the Magus sisters. Once they get really strong they do 99,999 damage every normal hit. It takes time to get your characters that far though. Also get the ultimate weapons since otherwise the characters and the Aeons will have a damage barier of 9,999

[Cless]

Id: it just a slightly reworked version of FFT's battle system. each action takes up points and delays your next action like FFT, yes the summons are different but they basically pumped up temporary chars. And the swaping chars out is only to the FFX series not new in general. The battle system is not new just different don't get them confused. And don't just becuase it is square is some great game and orignal.

[<Id>]

Right. Well anyways I'm not gonna argue about this anymore since there is simply no point. I have said what I like about the game, if you don't like it... your loss. How far did you get into the game anyway?

[Cless]

I put about 50 hours into FFX. which I did spend the time find if was a decent game. My loss was the fact that I spend $50 on that game.

[Darkhound]

ok heres a list of games that take more than 100 hours to complete : anyone?

i think ull come up with pretty damn few unless a morons playing them

[Darkhound]

there are other games worth ur money unless all u care about are graphics

well you're obviously missing the whole point of teh FF series, considering graphics are probably one of the least important things. But if you can add kick ass grapics to a game that already has a great storyline, characters and locations, then why not??

[<Id>]

Yeah Darkhound... You tell him

[si_ok]

Originally posted by <Id>
Delita: How is the battle system not new? I mean ATB is gone, now it's CTB. Also you can switch characters whenever. The Summoned Creatures have fighting abilities rather than that you just call them. You can change your weapons whenever. And some of the battle environments are really dynamic i.e. machines to use, places to warp to, moving the ship you fight on away or nearby. I hope you now understand the "New Battle System".

hehe, thx.
/me looks for ff anthologies

[Cless]

Darkhound i relize that. It was just that the graphics engine is about the only new thing in the game and unforanutely it was best thing I saw about it. Over a games graphics don't mean anything to me just game play and plot. I didn't like FFX.

[Darkhound]

yeah i understand, but i just like FF so much, that even if one isnt as good as the other, its still FF and therefore excellent ;)

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Darkhound
yeah i understand, but i just like FF so much, that even if one isnt as good as the other, its still FF and therefore excellent ;) By your reasoning, Final Fantasy XIV will also be an amazing game. :p It doesn't matter if it's a game released under the Final Fantasy name. If it's crap, it's crap.

[Cless]

I agree with ryos it doesn't matter who makes the game or if it is in a series. you need to judge the game on it self not on it's predecessors. I was not some that was dissapointed with FFX but then agian I thoght it would be crap.

[Demigod]

Yeah, I have to agree with Ryos and delita. The later FF games weren't so hot compared to the earlier ones and I've played plenty of non-Square games that were absolutely amazing. I'm playing through Grandia 2 right now and it's just awesome. Just goes to show you can't judge a game by its title, not the reputation of its creators. I think the FF games are over the hill and Square needs to do some serious revitalizing and innovation if they want to stay on top.

[Carmofin]

i jugde FF games mainly by the fact how long i needed to play through( FF7 70 hours, FF8 100 hours, FF9 70 hours, FF6 40 hours, which is why it doesn't stand a chance to the newer ones to me), next to that the most important thing is the story (nothing can beat the central "who is the main character really"-theme of FF7 :p)...
i heard both things are good about FFX so i'll probably like it...
oh, now i ended up only talking bout FF games myself... well, the reason to me is that no square game ever will be able to even be compared to a suikoden game anyway :p
btw, about grandia 2... how similar is it to part 1? i cant really say i didnt like part 1, but it got very boring pretty fast and from what ive seen grandia 2 has the same crappy dungeon/town design as its precedessor...

[Kane]

Just because a game is long, don't mean it's good. I like all the FF's that I have played. FF6 had a good plot, and I enjoyed playing it, but I'd rather play FF7 or 9 at the mo. 8 may have taken a long time, but I got so bored of drawing magic that I ended up cheating just to complete it.
I think that there are other things that are new in FFX, but it's more of a refinement process than a full blown new edition from what I've seen. Hopefully I should be able to find out for myself in about a week or so.

PS, Carmofin: I like the Alucard Avatar.

[Darkhound]

what i said didnt really come out the way it was meant to, what i meant to say was that if a game has teh FF tag attactched to it, that would give me enough reason to buy it, even without playing it first. And FFXIV might be crap, but going on the previous FFs, i would sincerely doubt it

and :

you need to judge the game on it self not on it's predecessors

i know that 95% of people do this before they have played the actual game, now dont lie ;)

if a game was awesome, say MGS, that would sway your opinion into thinking that MGS2 would be good aswell, even if you wont admit it

[Kane]

Even the FF name can be marred. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest is thought to be a bit of a cack game, by some. Also, a lot of people dislike the more recent games.

[Cless]

First off I bought MSG2 without every playing any of it's predecessors. I also agree with lord about the fact that the length of a game has little with whither the game is good or not. And Carmofin if you wnat a long try the baldur'sgate series they are long.like BG2 it can take up to 200 hours to competle. and I am one of thoguhs people that are dissapointed the recent FF's.

[Demigod]

Originally posted by Carmofin
i jugde FF games mainly by the fact how long i needed to play through( FF7 70 hours, FF8 100 hours, FF9 70 hours, FF6 40 hours, which is why it doesn't stand a chance to the newer ones to me), next to that the most important thing is the story (nothing can beat the central "who is the main character really"-theme of FF7 :p)...
i heard both things are good about FFX so i'll probably like it...
oh, now i ended up only talking bout FF games myself... well, the reason to me is that no square game ever will be able to even be compared to a suikoden game anyway :p
btw, about grandia 2... how similar is it to part 1? i cant really say i didnt like part 1, but it got very boring pretty fast and from what ive seen grandia 2 has the same crappy dungeon/town design as its precedessor...
A long game does not always equal a good game. FF8 took a pretty long time to complete (especially because of the drawing) but it wasn't a very good game, at least to me. It got so boring at times. Games like FF4 and FF6 had much better game elements.

And I like the dungeon/town design of Grandia 2. It's a thousand times better than the crappy 2D pre-rendered backgrounds in FF games (with the exception of FF10 I guess). The battles are also more strategic and dramatic.

[Cless]

FFX might as well been 2d since you can never roate the screen. And it some spot you will have a tough deciding if is realy 3d or the old 2d prerenderd backgrounds.

[Xeven]

Originally posted by Ryos
By your reasoning, Final Fantasy XIV will also be an amazing game. :p It doesn't matter if it's a game released under the Final Fantasy name. If it's crap, it's crap.

umm, okay boss. :p

[Carmofin]

dont misunderstand me, i didnt say i judge games by their length, i said i judge FF games by their length ;)
but i guess the story is more important after all...
however, the 100 hours it took me to finish FF8 are the only reason i dont damn anyone to hell who claims FF8 is a good game...
if a game is able to keep your interest THAT long it just can't be all that bad...
and if it took me less then 70 hours to finish a FF game it just would feel like something was missing :p

[Xeven]

well, im up to > 70 hrs with FFX now.. so it can't be that bad too.. :p

[Exodus]

i remember i got a couple hours over 100 in FF7... that was a lot of FF7...

[Cless]

Why does your rule only apply to FF's I never found them to execptionally long.

[RhombusYSS]

A game I played recently Summoner (PC version) makes me question the length rule as well. It took me about 30 hours to complete it, and that's including all the side quests and stuff. Yeah, the game is really linear and there isn't too much town development (but the one main town is pretty huge and really overwhelmed me at first). But I just found this game was alot of fun to play and I think I enjoyed my 30 hours of playing this game alot more than the 60 hours of play that it took me to beat FF8.

[Demigod]

Originally posted by Carmofin
dont misunderstand me, i didnt say i judge games by their length, i said i judge FF games by their length ;)
but i guess the story is more important after all...
however, the 100 hours it took me to finish FF8 are the only reason i dont damn anyone to hell who claims FF8 is a good game...
if a game is able to keep your interest THAT long it just can't be all that bad...
and if it took me less then 70 hours to finish a FF game it just would feel like something was missing :p
Just because a game takes a long time to complete doesn't make it interesting. FF8 was among the only FF games that I've played only once. I only finished it for the sake of completion and to see how it ends (I don't like leaving games hanging). FF7 I replayed about 3 times, FF9 about 2 times, and FF4, 5 and 6 I played about 4 or 5 times each and I don't even want to count how many times I've replayed Chrono Trigger (what with the new game+ mode and all). Seiken Densetsu 3 also had tremendous replay value and I've racked up well over a hundred hours of gameplay into that one. A good game keeps you coming back for more.

[Kane]

I've only played FF8 twice, FF7 twice (It'd be more, but my PSX version was pikeyed, and the PC version is buggy as hell), FF9 3/4 times. I've played CT twice through from the begginiing, but both times I went on to complete it again with New Game+.
I have too many RPGs to complete now to keep ding that tho. I'll be getting FFX and Dragon Warrior 7 in a week, and I have still to complete ToD2, Xenogears and a load of SNES RPGs

[Xeven]

hmm FF7 7 or 8 or 9 times i think.. (between pc and ps) FF8 and FF9 x times as well can't remember anymore.. :heh:

[Exodus]

for some reason, i can't make myself play more than once an RPG anymore. it must be because i have other games to play. the last one i re-played was FF7 about a month or two ago. i had started Xenogears, but i moved on to Jade Cocoon, then Vagrant Story and now on Legend of Legaia.

[Kane]

That's a good point.... I still have to finish Vagrant story.... And Breath of Fire 3/4

[Exodus]

too many games, not enough time...
i still have not played and finished Beyond the Beyond (probably won't), Vandal Hearts 2, Brigandine, and Grantream Saga that i just got from my friend. soon, i'll try to add Star Ocean, Valkyrie Profile and Grandia to that list and possibly Lunar.

[Darkhound]

btw was Vagrant story ever get out of running around in bland rooms killing the same enemies. I played it for 3 hours then took it back the next day :/ just wanted to know if it got any better

[Kane]

The action doesn't change, but it is a challenging game. The action doesn't really change in most any game.
You could say that Quake 3 is "Running in and out of rooms, killing the same enimies". It doesn't detract from the fact taht it is a good game.

[Darkhound]

i dont really see what you mean. Quake III is a fps and most people buy it for its online quality, and it doesnt advertise itself as an epic story, with grand locations etc. Quake 3 is a simple game and is the same thing over and over again, but it doesnt pretend not to be. Im not saying Vagrant story does either, but it is an RPG and does advertise that its an epic etc, which it isnt in my opinion.

[Kane]

It does have a fantastic story, but it's an action/RPG.

[Carmofin]

vagrant story isnt just another RPG...
it is for people who get bored by FF games because theres not a moment of challenge and who can also play through any other RPG without a single problem, or lets better say, for RPG-experts ;)
i remember the last boss of vagrant story as the only RPG-chalange i had in YEARS and i only discovered the qualities of that game after a break of two years, but now that im through 2 times i have to admit its one of the best RPGs on the PSX there is, a jewel, hidden in a big mudclump...

[Darkhound]

for RPG experts....in the 3 hours i played it in never found it any more challenging that the FF series, and i dont think that just because someone plays FF and likes that the best, that makes you any better at RPGs than those ppl

[Kane]

It gets harder. much garder. I thought it was really easy at the start, but then I realised I had naffed up my combinations when I was doing 1 damage to everything. It is still hard even after combining right. Some of the bosses have to be beaten within time limits.

[Exodus]

yeah, i found it get harder too, but probably because the weapon system is complicated. you have to pay attention to the type of weapon AND the weapon's enemy preference, otherwise you end up doing 0 damage. i finished it, but found many long boss fights. luckily, the bosses don't have that much HP.