I installed Ubuntu 11.04 but there's a major issue [Archive]

the_randomizer

May 16th, 2011, 04:32

Okay, so I followed the instructions to install Ubuntu 11.04 on my Chrome CR48, right? According to the person who wrote the instructions on how to install the previous, he specifically stated to follow Linux's install guide to upgrade the OS, and I did. So I installed it and it seemed to reboot just fine. HOWEVER, when I logged in, I saw no icons on the upper task bar, no programs would load (like Kega Fusion, black screen instead of static), heck I don't even see the time/date bar either. I do, however see it during the login screen, it only disappears after logging in. That doesn't make any sense, as there are numerous people who did the same thing to their CR48 netbooks. If they installed 11.04, why can't I? I'm 100% convinced something in the boot partition got screwed up, but like I said before, I followed the instructions exactly as they ought to be followed. Any suggestions or am I SOL? :hdbash:

PsyMan

May 16th, 2011, 04:37

the_randomizer

May 16th, 2011, 04:40

Backup your documents and the likes, do a clean 11.04 installation and install the programs you want.
Updating from previous versions can lead to issues, especially when you use unsupported 3rd party packages.

I'm not an Linux expert, so I don't know how to reinstall, but upgrading like that can make the task bar disappear? I don't know if I can even locate the Terminal with invisible icons. Locations like "Places" "Administrator" and "System" aren't there.

PsyMan

May 16th, 2011, 04:44

Hard core Rikki

May 16th, 2011, 04:48

I assume youre not using Unity.
Report on exotic ppas you might have been using, like suraia's.
Reset the gnome panels to their original settings, logout and go back in.

the_randomizer

May 16th, 2011, 05:20

Just boot using the ubuntu live cd and follow the instructions. Be sure to delete the old ubuntu partition(s), make new one(s) and install there.

Just make sure you don't touch any Windows partitions.

This is a Chrome CR48, they do NOT have optical drives. USB only.

I assume youre not using Unity.
Report on exotic ppas you might have been using, like suraia's.
Reset the gnome panels to their original settings, logout and go back in.

Not sure how to do that either. I need to know how do I reinstall it from the Terminal. I don't need instructions on how to do it from a nonexistent CD/DVD Rom drive.

PsyMan

May 16th, 2011, 05:23

Just make a live USB stick then. Ubuntu site gives details about it.

the_randomizer

May 16th, 2011, 05:25

Just make a live USB stick then. Ubuntu site gives details about it.

I'm on it. But, MAN is their website slow! 45kbps? Ouch, and I thought Comcast was supposed to be fast. Oddly enough, I'm not seeing anything about Chrome's cr48 on this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick

Hard core Rikki

May 16th, 2011, 05:29

This is a Chrome CR48, they do NOT have optical drives. USB only.
Use unetbootin or the integrated liveusb maker. A clean install would still be nicer, but since only settings seemed broken here, you might wish to check back on them first.

For the terminal, you can bring it by using ALT+F2 then typing programs out (here 'terminal').
If only the gnome gui just died on you, you might wish to have a spare if just in case. The minimalist version of LXDE should do you fine (the full lubuntu desktop installs tons of unneeded packages).

sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core

the_randomizer

May 16th, 2011, 05:55

Use unetbootin or the integrated liveusb maker. A clean install would still be nicer, but since only settings seemed broken here, you might wish to check back on them first.

For the terminal, you can bring it by using ALT+F2 then typing programs out (here 'terminal').
If only the gnome gui just died on you, you might wish to have a spare if just in case. The minimalist version of LXDE should do you fine (the full lubuntu desktop installs tons of unneeded packages).

sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core

I'll give that a shot and see what happens. I assume I run the "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core" after I have the image on my USB drive, right? Or will I need to locate the LXDE files?

EDIT 11:46 - Some of the files could not be fetched/installed...*sigh*

Homicide

May 16th, 2011, 19:04

I'm surprised that thing is already supported.

11.04 is all kinds of ****ty atm, I tried changing the settings in Compiz (the window manager in case you're unfamiliar) and it crashed entirely. And it still doesn't work. I"m probably gonna go back to 10.10 or preferably 10.04

the_randomizer

May 16th, 2011, 22:58

The GUI itself is nonexistent, but the OS itself boot up and hasn't crashed. Take for example when I open up firefox (via a command) and I maximize the window, there are no minimize/maximize/close icons at all; they're nonexistent. I can still use alt+tab to switch between open windows, but like I said, there is no GUI. Any help? You'd think when Linux makes an official release, it wouldn't be such a pain in the a** to install. What should I do?

KrossX

May 16th, 2011, 23:04

I guess what you're missing ain't the GUI but the window decorations? Try changing it, or reverting to some default. That was under theme settings or something.

the_randomizer

May 16th, 2011, 23:05

I guess what you're missing ain't the GUI but the window decorations? Try changing it, or reverting to some default. That was under theme settings or something.

But I see nothing at all, and just to make sure, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on Virtual Box. On that program, I saw the GUI and I could actually access options. On the CR48 I don't see crap, making navigation impossible! I already looked there and didn't find anything. How many times do I need describe this issue!? My PC with Virtual Box = GUI is visible without having to change anything. CR48 = Nothing at all and didn't do any changes either; once I minimize something, I can't resize it or find it. THAT IS NOT NORMAL. HOW CAN I BE MORE CLEAR?

Hard core Rikki

May 16th, 2011, 23:18

In the login screen, at the bottom, dont select the session "Ubuntu" (Unity), select "classic w/effects" or without effects.
If you installed lubuntu-core, the "Lubuntu" desktop should also be available (everything should work fine in there).

Metacity and panel might need a reset. Install Ubuntu-Tweak if you didnt already have it, these options are easily available from there (and you can backup your current settings too).

the_randomizer

May 16th, 2011, 23:24

In the login screen, at the bottom, dont select the session "Ubuntu" (Unity), select "classic w/effects" or without effects.

If you installed lubuntu-core, the Lubuntu desktop should also be available.

Metacity and panel might need a reset. Install Ubuntu-Tweak if you didnt already have it, these options are easily available from there (and you can backup your current settings too).

I didn't see any options with the words "w/effects" and one called just "Ubuntu classic" and after choosing it, it worked. Why didn't Linux WARN people about this, they like to give the impression that the boot partition got messed up. It works now. Sheesh, talk about PEBKAC. :hdbash: Now if I could only get Snes9x to work again....One zip file ends with "x86/64" and the other "i386".

masta.g.86

May 17th, 2011, 01:54

One zip file ends with "x86/64" and the other "i386".

If you installed 32bit Ubuntu, use "i386". "x86/64" for 64bit.

the_randomizer

May 17th, 2011, 02:04

If you installed 32bit Ubuntu, use "i386". "x86/64" for 64bit.

Tried the i386 version of Snes9x-gtk and doesn't load. Oh well.

masta.g.86

May 17th, 2011, 02:09

I'm pretty sure SNES9x is in the Ubuntu repositories. Just fire up Synaptic package manager and search for "snes". (pretty sure it's there...)

the_randomizer

May 17th, 2011, 02:33

The version I see is http://snesemu.black-ship.net/emus/snes9x/snes9x-1.53-gtk-81-i386.tar.bz2 and after I extract it, it won't open the executable. Double click and...nothing. Used the Synaptic package manager, installed the one that said Snes9x, but the version it listed was 1.52 and NOT 1.53. WTF? After doing that, still doesn't do jack squat. It worked in the LAST version of Ubuntu and now it won't load a window. Great.

PsyMan

May 17th, 2011, 02:35

...and that's why I told you to do a clean install.

Strike105X

May 17th, 2011, 05:00

Meah tried ubuntu 11 myself i didn't liked it one bit... unity theme su... and it felt unstable... good thing there is mint :P.

PsyMan

May 17th, 2011, 05:11

Dunno. 11.04 is rock stable here. Actually, it's the only Ubuntu version that's stable on my system.

n_w95482

May 17th, 2011, 05:15

I've had numerous issues with 10.04 but 10.10 and 11.04 seem to be fine.

Strike105X

May 17th, 2011, 05:33

Well my computer is strange i admit... the only linux i manage to work as i wanted atm is Linux Mint 9 (based on ubuntu 9).

Silenus

May 17th, 2011, 13:51

I don't know much about this.

But this seems awesome.

Didn't know it was possible.

Linux on a browser (http://bellard.org/jslinux/)

I wonder what can you do with it.

the_randomizer

May 17th, 2011, 15:31

...and that's why I told you to do a clean install.

That still doesn't answer my question, not to mention I have no freakin idea on how to do a clean install, now do I? That also doesn't explain why Snes9x suddenly stopped working before I upgraded Ubuntu.

Proto

May 17th, 2011, 15:55

Can you try installing 'fusion-icon', and from there switching off the composite manager? (and switch to the gnome one?)

the_randomizer

May 17th, 2011, 19:06

Can you try installing 'fusion-icon', and from there switching off the composite manager? (and switch to the gnome one?)

Not sure how to do that or use Snes9x. Like I said, neither Kega nor Snes9x load properly.

GCFreak

May 18th, 2011, 05:40

Well, the only reason I could guess why Unity (and by extension Compiz) doesn't work is that the graphics driver your CR48 uses doesn't support the necessary extensions to run. Ubuntu Classic (GNOME 2) doesn't utilize the graphics card the way Compiz/Unity does, so that should work on pretty much anything.

n_w95482

May 18th, 2011, 08:05

It should work, the CR-48 uses integrated Intel video. The last three versions of Ubuntu that I've tried on my netbook had fully functional Unity/Compiz interfaces, and it has near-identical integrated graphics.

the_randomizer

May 18th, 2011, 16:20

KrossX

May 18th, 2011, 17:36

Just backup your documents and try a clean install like PsyMan suggested. That means, clean the drive from partitions and let the new installation create them anew.

the_randomizer

May 18th, 2011, 19:17

The problem with the HDD is that it contains both Chrome OS and Linux Ubuntu partitions. I wouldn't know the first thing about putting both OSes back on the HDD. I'd probably have to find a way to completely erase the data (not that there's really anything I need to backup), reinstall Chrome OS first, then from Chrome OS, get into the Terminal and type the necessary commands (while being logged in with the name Chronos) that download Ubuntu and it should be installed. Whether pressing space bar during the boot sequence is the way to do it or not, I have no idea. Any guides for reinstalling Chrome OS via USB stick? When I download Linux, should I follow this guy's tutorial? Chrome OS on the Google Cr-48: Ubuntu 11.04 for the Cr-48 is ready! (http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2011/04/ubuntu-1104-for-cr-48-is-ready.html) Times like this I consider myself to be VERY noobish, but I am learning more and more about Linux everyday.

the_randomizer

May 19th, 2011, 00:59

UPDATE 6:00 PM - Managed to reinstall Linux and it runs smooth, BUT, Snes9x still will not load, neither will Kega Fusion. File permissions ARE enabled on both programs yet it's still being stupid. How do I update the GPU drivers? Heck, how do I get either program to work?!

PsyMan

May 19th, 2011, 01:13

Did you actually install kega and snes9x or did you just copy the files used on the older installation?

the_randomizer

May 19th, 2011, 01:22

Did you actually install kega and snes9x or did you just copy the files used on the older installation?

What's the difference? Do I use the Synaptic Installer or do I download them from the site? I downloaded the official Linux zip file.

PsyMan

May 19th, 2011, 01:46

Just get the corresponding debian packages for both and install them.

the_randomizer

May 19th, 2011, 01:52

Just get the corresponding debian packages for both and install them.

Debian packages? You mean these? https://launchpad.net/~bearoso/+archive/ppa I don't see any releases 11.04 Natty Narwhal. I PMed BearOSO about it but haven't gotten a response yet. As far as Fusion is concerned, I don't see any debian links for that either.

Butz_san

May 19th, 2011, 04:20

the_randomizer

May 19th, 2011, 04:34

Unity is bad for compiz, simple as that, I used to use Ubuntu, until I installed Debian 6.0, that day everything change for me, Debian is way more stable and almost all the packages that work in ubuntu are working fine or better on Debian :D.

So I'm SOL....right? That doesn't help me, now does it? There's no guide on installing Debian on a Chrome CR48, so, I can't do that. I posted this thread to get help running emulators on Ubuntu and NOT to hear why it sucks. I couldn't care less on what's better or not. Like I said before, they worked on 10.10 Maverick, but not on Natty Narwhal. WHAT CAN I DO TO GET THESE THINGS WORKING AGAIN!!? I'm not wanting to start an argument, but these responses are NOT the reason I came here. The only thing preventing me from putting XP on this thing is the possibility of ruining the BIOS, as that has to be flashed.

Hard core Rikki

May 19th, 2011, 06:39

Dont use the effects-enabled version of the Classic interface, go with the 'no effects' one.

For emulators, go with other more consistently reliable PPAs.

the_randomizer

May 19th, 2011, 07:01

Dont use the effects-enabled version of the Classic interface, go with the 'no effects' one.

For emulators, go with other more consistently reliable PPAs.

It IS on "no-effects" and I don't know of any more up-to-date PPA's. This is the one on the Snes9x-gtk site, if you have a better link, I'd like to see it. And since I'm no the no-effects mode, I'm SOL, right?!!

To sum up

I don't know of any reliable/consistent PPAs
I don't use Ubuntu Classic with effects
I have the most recent GPU drivers
I have been able to use these very emulators in 10.10
I don't have nearly the same level of knowledge concerning Linux like you do
I don't know why I even bothered posting here in the first place since I'm getting the runaround.
If no one can give me advice for getting an emulator to run on no-effects Ubuntu without having to
endure endless hours of Hell, then, well, I'll just give up.

PsyMan

May 19th, 2011, 07:12

the_randomizer

May 19th, 2011, 15:28

https://launchpad.net/~bearoso/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1680048/+listing-archive-extra

Use the i386 one from there.

As for Kega, a package of it is here:

Index of /dists/ubuntugames/main/binary-i386 (http://archive.ubuntugames.org/dists/ubuntugames/main/binary-i386/)

Thanks :D Quick question, is there any way to stop Snes9x from stuttering with the audio? I've tried ALSA, SDL, Pulse Audio, Open Sound System and they all skip every 30s or so, and the input frequency is set at 31620Hz. Kega Fusion still gives me a blank screen and no menu. WTF? Is this netbook not powerful enough?

GCFreak

May 20th, 2011, 22:15

Thanks :D Quick question, is there any way to stop Snes9x from stuttering with the audio? I've tried ALSA, SDL, Pulse Audio, Open Sound System and they all skip every 30s or so, and the input frequency is set at 31620Hz. Kega Fusion still gives me a blank screen and no menu. WTF? Is this netbook not powerful enough?

I'm afraid that might be the case. Make sure the audio buffer settings are correct, as well, and that you are not using any extra audio effects that might be slowing it down.

the_randomizer

May 20th, 2011, 23:08

I'm afraid that might be the case. Make sure the audio buffer settings are correct, as well, and that you are not using any extra audio effects that might be slowing it down.

I'm just confused what the ideal output mode is; ALSA, SDL, OSS, Port Audio? To this day I'm not even sure what the least buggy version is. Heck, I can't even get output on OSS. Is there a way to update the GPU and SPU drivers?