Final Fantasy Tactics Monk Gang

[Fou-lu]

Has anyone seen this? :eek:

[VTB]

Wow dind't know FF tactics had such graphics.
And no i dunno.

[Pemolis]

Once got a gang of dragons (about 11 of them) and I was using my tietiary substandard group (no special players in it).


They Whupped my @ss Real Good.

[Recca]

Cool did that happen to you Fou.
Maybe they had cool items

[Exodus]

there are a couple of weird battes in FFT. one is the one where its just a minotaur and a knight fighting. another is one where you fight a bunch of dragons and hydras and you get some on your team too.

[expert464]

I had that exact same battle once, on a real playstation though. Boy I wished I could've taken a screenshot (or a movie with PeOps) of my onslaught. I think I killed 3 of them... if I had my characters in their regular jobs I might've killed a bit more. It was crazy.

The ultimate chocobo battles in Barius Hill are almost as bad.. they show up more often too, but 10 monks is enough doom for me.

[Badaro]

Originally posted by Fou-lu
Has anyone seen this? :eek:

Scary. Got something like this one, and I only survived because I had a high-powered black mage with math skill. :)

[]s Badaro

[Ryos]

Running into all monks is quite dangerous, unless you happen to have the math skill handy (as Badaro already said). Since those random battles are pretty random, that's one of those cases where you're almost better off reloading the game and trying another combination.

[oishisakana]

thats nothing

12 samurai levels 97- 99

some with Kikuichimoji

and I think opne might have had a Chirijiraden

I died quickly. :cry:


very little could beat that assortment.

[fujita]

Running into all monks is quite dangerous, unless you happen to have the math skill handy
...or Cidolfas Orlandu at max level.:D

Wow, that's very fortunate of you. I've never faced that kind of party before, but it is dangerous. Another thing that would worries me is a group of that three headed dragons (Tiamat and others). Their attack are quite nasty too. I think you can find lots of weird kind of parties in the Deep Dungeon.

[SanDRocK]

i fought a monk gang, was my guys vs like 11 of em, man i go worked bad lol

[Esturk]

Originally posted by Fou-lu
Has anyone seen this? :eek:
I have. Look here.http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6740

[Kane]

That looks nasty. On he plus side however, you would get aa shed load of exp!!!

[Fou-lu]

I killed 3, weakened 2 and got my @$$ really wooped by the remaining 5 :p
I think I'm very weak here... Ramza is a very good monk, but he was pratically fighting alone...

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Fou-lu
I killed 3, weakened 2 and got my @$$ really wooped by the remaining 5 :p
I think I'm very weak here... Ramza is a very good monk, but he was pratically fighting alone... Hmm. I bet a monk Ramza using accumulate and scream could take them all on and kill them, assuming you use the patented strategy of running like there's no tomorrow.

[Esturk]

That might work Ryos but they would probably get to you before you had a chance to use it a couple times! Another point is that most of them have Chakra, Revive, Earth Slash and Wave Fist. That makes them a real Biatch! Even when I was Level99 and mastered all Jobs they still worked me over!

[Fou-lu]

Originally posted by Ryos
Hmm. I bet a monk Ramza using accumulate and scream could take them all on and kill them, assuming you use the patented strategy of running like there's no tomorrow.

The "Run for your Lives"© strategy don't work here as in 2 turns they get you (the stage is very small and no place to hide) ;)

[Ryos]

Then it's time to get a couple of black mages with the math skill to clean them up. :p

[Recca]

Or give em 2 sword's ability.
Excalibur and chaos blade.
Move+3
Then you see who whoops ass

[Fou-lu]

Originally posted by Recca
Or give em 2 sword's ability.
Excalibur and chaos blade.
Move+3
Then you see who whoops ass

That would be sweet, but for now they are just kicking my @$$. I will get avenged! :evil:

[Recca]

I kicked altemicias ass in 10 min or less

[Fou-lu]

:cry:

I will get stronger!!!!

[Recca]

Can't wait till monday. My friend borrowed it can't wait til he gives it back. FFt rulez all rpgs

[Exodus]

FFT is definetly one of my favorite RPGs.
i remember the days when i used gameshark to get a team of all the zodiac monsters and another team with all the NPCs like Delita, Gafgarion and Zalbag. that took a lot of coding, especially to get their names changed to what they were supposed to be.

[fujita]

One of the things that I found interesting in FFT was Cloud Strife is really is in that game!:D Well, his limit breaks may take some times to execute, but it's still cool.

[Exodus]

one of his limit breaks is really good; the one that messes with the status of the enemy or did it turn them to stone, i don't remember anymore.

[Ryos]

All of his limit breaks are good. The problem is most of them take too bloody long to pull off.

[Fou-lu]

I guess you would have to use a time mage to make the "target" stand still for cloud be able to hit it ;)

[Ryos]

Ugh, but having to waste a slot in your group for someone with time spells? Not worth the effort. The only thing I liked about Cloud was his stats. He was literally more powerful than anyone else in the game in both physical and magical abilities, making him the best in any class you give him.

[Exodus]

argh... its been too long since i played and i now remember no details... how was the charge time decided in FFT?

[Fou-lu]

Originally posted by Exodus
argh... its been too long since i played and i now remember no details... how was the charge time decided in FFT?

It's determined by the speed of the spells. If it has speed 50 then it will most likely be cast in 2 turns. Imagine a speed of 5 then...

[Exodus]

wasn't there an ability that halved charge time? or maybe an item?

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Exodus
wasn't there an ability that halved charge time? or maybe an item? Even with something to halve charge time, some of Cloud's abilities took way too long to execute. I remember I had him using the last ability once. I killed every enemy that ability was supposed to hit and was just about to get going when the ability finally went off and killed everyone in the party. WTG, Cloud!

[Exodus]

don't forget, he's a little confused in FFT. :D

[Fou-lu]

Yep, there's a half charge ability in the time mage skills. Have him learn that. Also you should be pretty careful with him, he's loaded :D

[Exodus]

i should really play that game again, but i have so many other games that i haven't played at all... what to do, what to do...

[Esturk]

Originally posted by Exodus
i should really play that game again, but i have so many other games that i haven't played at all... what to do, what to do...
I know what you mean.....

[Eface]

fft THAT good?

[Recca]

Originally posted by Eface Darren
fft THAT good?


Yep it's more than that good

[fujita]

For me, Final Fantasy Tactics is one of the best strategy RPG. Believe it or not, I finished it twice just to get something new from the characters. Trying to get Ultima and Zodiac, trying to steal the Genji equipments and lots more. It's so fun to play it.

[EfrainMan]

FFT is one of the best games I've ever played. Playing again right now.

The weird battles I've gotten are the ones mentioned here. 10-11 monks, knight and bull demon, dragons-behemoths-hydras vs. you a behemoth and a black chocobo. I've also gotten a small party of humans vs. you and a red dragon, and half a dozen calculators (not that hard).

[Recca]

What i like most about this game is the story. It's so capturing

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Recca
What i like most about this game is the story. It's so capturing Yep. Ignore the rest of the game (even though it's an extremely good SRPG). FFT's plot is one of the best out there. There are more twists and turns than almost anything else, and it also has my favorite ending of any game, but that's because it's just like the rest of the game. It's a thinker's plot, that's for sure.

[Kane]

I kind of like the way that although it ends happily, tradgedy is also interwined.

[Recca]

Delita is the clever one of the game.

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Recca
Delita is the clever one of the game. Delita is my hero. He's like the Raskolnikov of video games. A very appealing character just because he has so many conflicting interests.

[Kane]

It's a happy ending, but only in the fact that they beat wossname, and the brother and sister survived. It's not like FF 8&9, etc where it's all good. I like those endings, but this seems a more, I dunno, mature way of ending it.

[Ryos]

> the brother and sister survived

Welllll, I don't think you can safely say that. Based on the ending, I'd say it was more likely a hallucination. On the other hand, I very much doubt TG Cid would have died one way or the other. That guy was too powerful for his own good. ;)

[Kane]

It was a powerful ending even if you do look at in the optimistic way that I do.

[Recca]

Originally posted by Ryos
Delita is my hero. He's like the Raskolnikov of video games. A very appealing character just because he has so many conflicting interests.

Especially the way he manipulated everyone.

T.G cid coudn't die unless they faked it. wich they did in the game. Now that was cool

[Exodus]

even if Ramza and his sister did survive, it wasn't a completely happy ending what with Ovelia dying...

[EfrainMan]

Jeebus, please write "spoilers ahead", I haven't finished it yet. I mentioned it was my second time, but I never totally finished it the first time :mad: :(

[Exodus]

maybe we're lying to try and make you anticipate something that isnt going to happen. :)
or, if you don't believe that, then... they started it! :p

[Esturk]

Originally posted by Exodus
even if Ramza and his sister did survive, it wasn't a completely happy ending what with Ovelia dying...
Poor Ovelia, That power hungry son of a b*tch Delita. After seeing that I no longer care for Delita.....

[Recca]

Originally posted by Esturk17

Poor Ovelia, That power hungry son of a b*tch Delita. After seeing that I no longer care for Delita.....

All he wanted was a good place in the world. Like he said. You fight in the fifty world war and when it's over the nobles forget about you :(

[Exodus]

***possible spoiler***... but its too late anyways... :)

what was his reason for killing her again? i forget most of the plot.

[fujita]

***SPOILER ALERT, TOO***
I don't like Delita. Even though his goal is good, but the way he achieved it is not 'heroic'. Furthermore, he killed Ovelia! I'm so mad about that. Sorry, I can't remember the reason. The only thing I remember is Delita brought her some flowers, then I forgot about the conversation, and then Delita stabbed her. Way to go man, you kill your queen, and you lost your friends. Satisfied? I even like Gafgarion than him.:emb:

[Ryos]

EfrainMan and others who haven't beatten FFT. If you haven't figured it out by now, I'm heading into major spoiler territory (but then again, the thread's been there for two posts now).

fujita: That's the point. Delita is called the hero of the war, even though he's a traitor. Ramza is called a traitor, even though he's the hero of the war. It's all about being in the right place and the right time. Delita killed Ovelia because his anger could not be quenched until he got rid of everyone he felt was responsible for the plight of his family. Even though Ovelia was not directly responsible, she represented the last remnant of the corrupt power that Delita fought against for so long using any means necessary.

[Exodus]

for some reason, i vaguely remember that he killed her to completely unite the continent, with him being the only ruler... then again, i've played many RPGs since then, so i'm probably confusing it with another game.

[Kane]

Trying to remember the plot of that game is a nightmare, but playing it was a dream.

[Exodus]

another neat thing about FFT is that it had a backup in case you did forget the plot. it'd be nice if some more games would let you re-watch some plot scenes.

[Kane]

Yeah, coz sometimes some **** will play a scene in a game and say "I got through where you were stuck on" AAAARRRGGGHH

[Exodus]

with gameshark, you can even view the scene after the credits with Delita and Ovelia

[EfrainMan]

Well, I'll still finish it, but it seems that Tactics is a tragedy . . .

[Exodus]

oh yeah it is. people are always dying left and right.

[Kane]

But it's a truly beautiful story..... That's what the movie should have been!

[Exodus]

yeah, it would have been awesome. it would have had romance, betrayl, wars, dragons, swords, LOTS of special effects and killing. it would have been great!

[Kane]

It would be good as a live action film rather than a CG one, to be honest. Futuristic scenes are more fitting for CG.

[Exodus]

yeah, basically becuase we can't do all that high tech stuff to easily. but swords we can handle! i doubt they'd do anything like that though after their recent bomb with FF:TSPW. i wonder how a book based on the FFT story would be... i'd read that.

[Kane]

It's be popular that's for sure. Many people reckon that FFT has the best story of any of the FFs.

2000 posts! Hoo hoo!

[Exodus]

well, i'm sure some die hard FF5 or 6 fans would disagree with that... but none of them are as complicated as FFT's story

btw, good job!

[Kane]

I think it's better myself, but that's me. The plot in the others is slightly less detailed for my taste.

[Exodus]

and they're definetly not as serious. i'm more into serious stories now, which is why i'm liking Vagrant Story's plot so far.