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Kane
February 28th, 2002, 17:59
There where so many peeps on the Worst RPG thread, that I decided to do what GEO suggested and turn it into a poll.
Here it is then, What is the worst ever RPG?

Recca
February 28th, 2002, 18:11
SHADOW RON SUCKS HORSE SHOES 36

Zell
February 28th, 2002, 19:17
Shadowrun is my vote !!

Esturk
February 28th, 2002, 19:21
Both Shadowruns blow candy-ass!:D

Rubicant
February 28th, 2002, 19:26
mh why didn`t you put of Sword of Vermillion?
Its also VERY bad.

And the Dungeon for Nes sucks Ass too.


Not to forget Cobra Mission for the PC

Kane
February 28th, 2002, 19:29
I merely posted the ones from the previous thread, plus one I rememberred. If a passing Mod or Admin wants to add those, I won't complain

Auri87
February 28th, 2002, 20:18
legend of dragoon is one of my favorite games!! it shouldnt be in this poll

fujita
February 28th, 2002, 20:28
Hello everyone.
I don't think the games on the poll are worst though. There are only two words that match the desription, I'm going to say it and nothing else: Shadow Madness.:mg:

Exodus
February 28th, 2002, 20:53
Azure Dreams, stupidest game with story just in the beginning and at the end. SaGa Frontier 1 as a whole is pretty bad too.

Jonys
February 28th, 2002, 23:16
Secret of evermore just sucked....i think Square pals who made this game were using some acids before doing the game....

Ryos
March 1st, 2002, 03:13
For its time, Sword of Vermilion was one of the best RPGs out there. Just because the passage of time has been less than kind to it doesn't make it the worst. Don't forget that it WAS made 13 years ago.

Cajunspirit
March 1st, 2002, 03:38
Quest 64 jes' murdered RPG's 10 times ova!:dead:

Recca
March 1st, 2002, 06:39
MQ and LoD shouldn' t be there they are way cool.
But don't remove. Let's whats the worst rpg game EVER

SanDRocK
March 1st, 2002, 06:41
Quest64 sucked i played it for like 5 min then turned it off

n why would ya put legend of dragoon up there that game rocked:eek: :p

Recca
March 1st, 2002, 06:53
Common lets see whats the best and whats the worst.
ooh and is quest 64 for n64

Rubicant
March 1st, 2002, 09:18
I bought Sword of Vermillion at its releaseday

And i hated it!

I was better of playing Warsong and Master of Monsters at that time...

Ryos
March 1st, 2002, 09:18
Originally posted by Recca
ooh and is quest 64 for n64 As the name should imply, it is.

VTB
March 1st, 2002, 09:22
Secret of Evermore sux indeed.

Eface
March 1st, 2002, 09:25
Agreed secret of evermore is a bad game, i played until the coloseum, and then i quit...

Kane
March 1st, 2002, 17:32
It was too dull to even get past the bits with the cavemen. The absence of any real music was a real killer

Ryos
March 1st, 2002, 17:41
Originally posted by Lord Kane
It was too dull to even get past the bits with the cavemen. The absence of any real music was a real killer There is music, but only in one specific area of Secret of Evermore. Ambience just doesn't do it for me.

Kane
March 1st, 2002, 17:57
/chokes
What happened to your avatar Ryos?

Music is almost essential to retain the mood in games. A few games overlook this, and they tend to suffer.

Cajunspirit
March 1st, 2002, 18:21
Legend of Dragoon REALLY shouldn't be there!:(

Ryos
March 1st, 2002, 18:48
Originally posted by Cajunspirit
Legend of Dragoon REALLY shouldn't be there!:( Sure it does. It's a terrible game. :p

Cajunspirit
March 1st, 2002, 19:21
Hey man everbody gotz different taste....

Rubicant
March 1st, 2002, 21:12
*hehe*

Amen on that.

Although they're probably right.

All the games mentioned are below average.
Which one's the worst depends on the personal taste.

Eface
March 5th, 2002, 10:41
though crono cross wasn't all that bad......
It still sucked BIG TIME in comparison with even the snes version of chrono trigger.....

Nazo
March 5th, 2002, 13:33
Yeah, CC wasn't TOO bad, it was almost halfway decent. The main problem was that all of us were expecting another chrono trigger and instead got something that wasn't even close really (IMO)

I wanted to vote for FF8 as worst RPG ever )-:

BTW, I liked Sword of Vermillion way back then. I didn't know it was 13 years old, but I remember playing it on the Genesis and playing it for hours upon hours until finally I beat it, which can't be said for many RPGs with me when I was that young. (Probably the only other I finished back then was Dragon Warrior 1, which was the first RPG I ever played, so I was hooked by that if nothing else.) It kind of broke new ground with the whole 3D walking around mixed with a somewhat action fighting but heavy RPG elements. Probably dungeon master fans enjoyed it.

Legend of Dragoon was sony's attempt to follow in SquareSoft's footsteps and try to get rich from an RPG. Needless to say, they put most of their work into multimedia first and foremost. (I am getting a pretty strong disliking of SquareSoft's latest work, god I miss the days of things like FFx up to 6 and FFT plus things like Chrono Trigger. The only two recent squaresoft games I can really say I love are FFT and Legend of Mana. Other than that I am almost to the point of hating with prejudice. It's all multimedia, no game, no story. (I admit I haven't had the chance to play ff9 much and don't have a ps2, so can't even so much as rent ff10.)

Kane
March 5th, 2002, 14:01
It would appear that in most people's opinion, Quest 64 was utter tripe. I'm glad I never played it.

Recca
March 5th, 2002, 14:05
Originally posted by Nazo
Yeah, CC wasn't TOO bad, it was almost halfway decent. The main problem was that all of us were expecting another chrono trigger and instead got something that wasn't even close really (IMO)

I wanted to vote for FF8 as worst RPG ever )-:

BTW, I liked Sword of Vermillion way back then. I didn't know it was 13 years old, but I remember playing it on the Genesis and playing it for hours upon hours until finally I beat it, which can't be said for many RPGs with me when I was that young. (Probably the only other I finished back then was Dragon Warrior 1, which was the first RPG I ever played, so I was hooked by that if nothing else.) It kind of broke new ground with the whole 3D walking around mixed with a somewhat action fighting but heavy RPG elements. Probably dungeon master fans enjoyed it.

Legend of Dragoon was sony's attempt to follow in SquareSoft's footsteps and try to get rich from an RPG. Needless to say, they
put most of their work into multimedia first and foremost. (I am getting a pretty strong disliking of SquareSoft's latest work, god I miss the days of things like FFx up to 6 and FFT plus things like Chrono Trigger. The only two recent squaresoft games I can really say I love are FFT and Legend of Mana. Other than that I am almost to the point of hating with prejudice. It's all multimedia, no game, no story. (I admit I haven't had the chance to play ff9 much and don't have a ps2, so can't even so much as rent ff10.)


Why didn't you like FF8:confused:

Kane
March 5th, 2002, 14:22
I liked the plot on FF8, but the endless drawing of magic was just plain annoying.

Recca
March 5th, 2002, 14:27
What i liked about it was the fact that it was in the "Future".
The GF system sucked and the magic Sucked

Nazo
March 5th, 2002, 14:34
Hmm, as to WHY I hate FF8, that gets a bit complicated. For one thing, the plot is far FAR too stretched out. You go for hours straight with nothing happening but battles. And the battle system is one of the worst ideas SquareSoft came up with yet if you ask me. I hated the whole materia system in FF7, then they went and made it even worse. That drawing magic thing, for example. It seems to me that all the fun of the fighting in RPGs is in developing your characters and finding out what they can do, plus learning whole new things. Thanks to this materia thing, you see something shiny on the ground, pick it up, and presto, you have a new powerful thunderbolt spell that the person who should be a healer can use just as well as the one who should be an offensive magician. Also, probably the biggest thing against it, the multimedia. It's obvious that square put all their work first into the multimedia and everything else was secondary at best. I usually play games like that with the volume on max and NEVER, EVER, mute, but for FF8, for the first time ever, I've actually had to play a game with the volume muted. I never expected to have to do that for any game, much less a RPG. It seems to me like they put all their work into video and sound and payed little attention to anything else. Basically FF8 is just the embodiment of practically everything I hate in a RPG.

Oh yes, and I think that I should add that my tastes are quite diverse. I've enjoyed QUITE a few rpgs that everyone else hates.

Oh, btw, I feel that a good story alone isn't enough to make a good game. After all, that's what books and movies are for. If I'm going to be doing something like FF8 for story and story alone, then I'd rather be playing some kind of choose your own adventure or something where the story actually progresses.

Recca
March 5th, 2002, 15:01
You have your own opinion and for that i do not care if you like it or not even thoug i am curios.

But i think the reason they made materia is because maybe people want to have an all attack team or an all healing team. So maybe that's why they made it. Yes it's true that sometimes FF8 can be quite booring but patience is everything.

But as i said above You are entitled to your own opinion:)

Nazo
March 5th, 2002, 15:08
Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, whether they live in a country where they have a right to voice it or not.

But, uhm, if I weren't patient, would I be playing RPGs?

Recca
March 5th, 2002, 15:13
who know's. Half of my patience was ruined when i was playing with those lego bricks:D

Nazo
March 5th, 2002, 15:24
Heh, I had a lot of fun with those too, I spent quite a few hours on them. But in the end I lost interest because they were too limiting (believe it or not.) They didn't have all this stuff they have now back then, and even if they had they'd have been too expensive. That's why I'm interested in becoming a computer programmer. Anyway, I've patience enough to go around, and in RPGs I actually often more that double par time because I like to take my time and develope my characters a lot. BTW, there's another thing about games like FF8. It takes all the fun away from working to level up. The only differences in levels are stats and things like that. The only new skills you got were things like limit breakers on rare occasions (might be 7 only, hard to remember.) Now, Final Fantasy Tactics, THAT is a game. Great story, nearly the perfect battle system. I'd kill for FFT battles and story mixed with a game that plays more like Final Fantasy 2(5)...

Kane
March 5th, 2002, 15:46
I hated the drawing of FF8. FF9 was good because it limited your characters to thier class. I'd have prefered it if in FF7, only certain people could use certain matereia, while at later levers, other materia become avaliable....
Say at level 7, Tifa is able to use the lightning materia, but Cloud isn't able to use it till level 10, and Barrett till 15. It makes more sense that way.

gerbilcannon
March 5th, 2002, 18:00
I for one am big on customization. I loved the concept of the drawing and junctioning system in ff8. I just think they could've implemented it better. And I didn't like the fact that summons got cheapened since you could use them over and over and over. I am thankful I have a fast system so I could just uncap the framerate to get through them quickly. Weapons were virtually useless to me until near the end of disc 3. Still, I don't think it was a bad game at all. I really liked the character designs, hated Rinoa, and liked the more serious feel to it over all. Now as to what game I think could qualify as the worst rpg ever ... I'd have to vote for Descent to Undermountain followed closely by both of the Diablos (if you feel you can count those as rpgs ...).

Nazo
March 5th, 2002, 20:31
Hmm, if you want customization, try a real game like Final Fantasy Tactics. In that your characters have to actually work to learn their abilities. I agree with Lord Kane, if they MUST do somehting like materia, it should be limited to what the person would actually have the ability to use. (Though, as I recall, Tifa was fire, I think Cloud was lightning (-:)

I at least liked Chrono Cross a little better because you almost couldn't summon.

BTW, I love both Diablos, and they are a RPG-action hybrid, not a true RPG. I especially love the way you can customize your stats. In Diablo1 I made a warrior who used magic like a sorcerer, but it didn't resemble the way FF8 was with the customization you can do there, making a warrior who has a higher level of expertise with the fireball spell than most same level mages is very hard and took a lot of work. Plus you had to search long and hard for the perfect armors and weapons to help. Anyway, I do kind of enjoy getting to use reflexes somewhat while still somewhat playing a RPG. I do kind of wish they had had the level of customization in Diablo 2 they had in one. It would be VERY cool to make an Asassin Mage (-:

The Diablo games aren't so terribly dissimilar from games like Nethack, of which there is little debate over the RPG status of. The only complaint I have is that Diablo 2 doesn't randomize the maps as much as it should. Still, both have that great exploration factor that makes games like Nethack so fun to so many.

VTB
March 5th, 2002, 21:22
Yeah grapics and movies where good in FF8. (even superb)

But story and gameplay sucked big time. The GF spells. its fun the first few times but after 10 times you wich they had a skip function.

And i did not like the draw magic. It's good that they try new styles but i liked the old way. gaining magic levels.

And going up levels is useless. I mean If i can't beat a boss or so. It was always handy to gain a few levels get some magic 1 level up and beat the living crap out of the boss. I mean i don't want to play 2 hours gaining levels for Sh%#t.

Recca
March 5th, 2002, 21:58
Especially omega weapon. he is impossible to beat if you are level 100:mad:

Kane
March 5th, 2002, 22:07
I liked the way in ff... everything except 8 allowed you to soop up so much that you could practicaly kill the final boss in one hit

Recca
March 5th, 2002, 22:11
Does squalls lionheart ring a bell if you have 100 ultima on your strenght:D

Eface
March 5th, 2002, 22:41
Originally posted by Recca
Does squalls lionheart ring a bell if you have 100 ultima on your strenght:D

yes, does it ring a bell if ultimecia blasts them away.... be prepared for a 50 minute fight.....

Sylvan Sorrow
March 5th, 2002, 23:22
why put 100 ultima on strength at the end? Thats a waste a bunhc of other spells can maxy out your strength at that point , put ulitma on something else. Btw I love FF8, and so does my GF (Girl Friend thats is).

Exodus
March 6th, 2002, 19:38
i have nothing against FF8. drawing was a little iffy, but over all the game was cool. i liked leveling up GFs and the limit breaks were nice too, unlike FF9.

REi_FoX
March 7th, 2002, 01:42
do you ever played RHAPSODY????? its the worse game i ever played and it sucks totallly!!!!!!!!

Exodus
March 7th, 2002, 01:47
i know better than to even TRY that one

Eface
March 7th, 2002, 09:17
i think neone who has played ff7 before 8 will not like 8....

VTB
March 7th, 2002, 10:21
BTW shadowrun. Is that the game where you are killed by a gang and wake up in the mortiarium. And you have to find out who you are??

Exodus
March 7th, 2002, 19:55
Originally posted by Eface Darren
i think neone who has played ff7 before 8 will not like 8....
i played 7 before 8 and i didn't have any problems with FF8. but then again, i'm not very picky when it comes to RPGs...

Eface
March 7th, 2002, 20:28
I amn't either, but ff8 was so bad in comparison to 7...

Ryos
March 8th, 2002, 16:26
Originally posted by VTB
BTW shadowrun. Is that the game where you are killed by a gang and wake up in the mortiarium. And you have to find out who you are?? That's the SNES game.

oishisakana
March 8th, 2002, 18:09
I would just like to point out that quest64 is in fact an Epic, not an RPG. Epics are action /adventure games based solely on magic rather than other abilities.

this of course didn't keep it from sucking.:p

Exodus
March 8th, 2002, 20:08
well, Mystical Ninja was pretty crappy on N64, but i guess that isn't a pure RPG either.

Gk1986
March 9th, 2002, 01:30
FFIX is among the bad RPGs. I don't have one that I particularly hate beside 9.

BTW, while we're on Ultimecia, try beating FFVIII on level 15. It took me over an hour to kill her. I only unlocked limit break, magic, and GFs. No resurrection, commands, etc... I went into the battle with Zell, Rinoa, and Squall, the GFs and magic divided equally. Squall died from Ultimecia's first hit. I accident chose Angel Wing for Rinoa's limit break, which had her casting status spells at the completely immune Ultimicia for the duration of the battle. I ended up going cheap and alternating between Punch Rush and Booya for Zell, doing 700 for each hit and approximately three hits per second. That pretty much saved. Also, it's cool how you could kill Ultimecia with a single Apocolipse spell at such a low level when she starts stocking them.

Exodus
March 9th, 2002, 01:39
i never put myself to trying to beat the game at the low levels. then again, i only played through the game once, and maybe a little in a second game. is it more fun playing at low levels, or just more challenging?

Auri87
March 9th, 2002, 05:03
whenever i play an rpg for the first time i always train like crazy
i cant stand losing to a computer

Esturk
March 9th, 2002, 05:36
Originally posted by Kr0nic_2000
whenever i play an rpg for the first time i always train like crazy
i cant stand losing to a computer
Me neither. Back in the day I saw my friend get annihalated in FF6 so many times!:D

Exodus
March 9th, 2002, 15:47
yeah, but now adays, its almost impossible to lose to the computer. it was easier to die in the old SNES RPG days. now, theres only a couple of hard battles in each RPG (excluding strategy/RPGs)

Eface
March 9th, 2002, 20:38
I remember dieing in luffia 1 and 2 a lot of times.....

Exodus
March 9th, 2002, 23:25
its too bad RPGs have become too easy... but its kind of hard to put a skill factor into RPGs. legend of dragoon needed some skill, but thats about it.

oishisakana
March 11th, 2002, 17:48
i cant stand losing to a computer

especially when you think of it as a giant algorithm. :eyemove:

gerbilcannon
March 11th, 2002, 18:42
I disagree, there is plenty of pontential for skill factor in rpgs. It isn't all about reflexes. The thing is, companies don't want to make truly difficult rpgs, because that wouldn't appeal to the general public. It is basically all about the common denominator.

Eface
March 11th, 2002, 20:54
But and rpg that's to easy won't leave you satisfied. If u are up against the neighbourhood bully as a final boss, or THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF DESTRUCTION!!!!

i'd go for that god and annihilate him. It's very rewarding. It was the case in lunar 2, which was quite a hard rpg. I hated when i was forced to level up so the enemy had no chance. I always level up insane, so the enemy has no chance. i go for those 1 or 2 hit kills, regardless of teammember.

Exodus
March 11th, 2002, 21:14
thats a lot of leveling up! can you imagine getting Aeris to make a killing blow?

Eface
March 11th, 2002, 21:25
Yeah.

Play star ocean 2, finish the cave of trials.
fight indalecio with limiter on. Rena (healer of the party) and celine(mage) did the fighing, my fighting characters didn't have to do anything. Indalecio got 1 attack to hit. It did 600 damage... AT MOST.....

Exodus
March 11th, 2002, 21:29
whats the highest damage you can do regularly in the game with a fighter or something?

Eface
March 11th, 2002, 21:36
9999 but that is not the best.

i had claude with the slayer ring: 1 attack counts as 3 attacks so 9999 x 3 = 27998 or sumthing)

that's fun, but this was the real killer:
Angel armband. Each hit sends about 7-10 sparks which hit for around 600-1000, since could does 3 hits it's 30 sparks which could be send flying to the enemy.

if everything hits it would be about 27998 + 21 x 600 = 40598 damage. If the sparks weren't doing their full potential.

then there's something like that attack (40000 damage) with the cancel to mirror slice ( about 15 slices for 9999 damage).

WHEEEEY, that's why i like Star Ocean 2, u can make people insane strong. (unfortunatly, with these amazing stats, indalecio - limiter off is still a VERY though boss to beat.)

Exodus
March 12th, 2002, 01:56
Emerald Weapon tough? or just tough? how many hit points does he have? i plan on eventually borrowing this game from my friend, and the way you describe it, it sounds like a good game.

Chrono Archangel
March 12th, 2002, 02:11
Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are the best RPG's ever made!!!!
Nothing can beat them!

Ryos
March 12th, 2002, 02:36
Originally posted by Exodus
Emerald Weapon tough? or just tough? how many hit points does he have? i plan on eventually borrowing this game from my friend, and the way you describe it, it sounds like a good game. Depends on what difficulty mode you're playing in. At the highest difficulty level, I've heard most people describe Indalecio limiter off as impossible to kill.

average_guy
March 12th, 2002, 03:59
Originally posted by Recca
SHADOW RON SUCKS HORSE SHOES 36

you are so wrong, i beat shadow run on snes, its the best.

average_guy
March 12th, 2002, 04:09
Originally posted by Recca
Especially omega weapon. he is impossible to beat if you are level 100:mad:

i'm so prode i beat it without cheating like I did in ff7 to beat 2 weapons, in ff8 i used an item called "hero" makes you inviscivible for 3 rounds, i only had one because I didn't use a walkthrough and missed the parts to get 10 more, but 1 is enough and hard, i remeber it took my more than 4 tries at lvl 60 to waste omaga, untima weapon is more than easy.

Eface
March 12th, 2002, 08:04
Originally posted by Exodus
Emerald Weapon tough? or just tough? how many hit points does he have? i plan on eventually borrowing this game from my friend, and the way you describe it, it sounds like a good game.
indalico limiter off has a LOT of hp, but the point is, he can run even faster than u. WAAAAY faster. and while he's running he can cast the BIGGEST spells u can think of. then there's something like the universe difficulty setting. That should make the game downright impossible. but it's worth the challenge though. And of course there's a lot of endings.

Exodus
March 12th, 2002, 20:35
running? what kind of battle system is it, like Tales of Destiny?
if theres difficulty levels, does that mean that are clear game saves that you can use over and over?

Eface
March 12th, 2002, 21:57
The battle system is like tales of phantasia (never played destiny) but then only a 3d battlefield, where up, down, in the air, it's all possible. The difficulty levels are hidden, the increase the hp of the enemy somewhat. I believe a couple of times (100x if i'm not mistaken ;)).
The game is VERY addicting. and the fighting is cool too, with the skills in battle u get a message if a skill succeeded. With the above method i mentioned, with approx 30 attacks in 1 swing, i easily get 30 skills i succeeded in in 1 try, and then i start comboing. My records is still 143 skills consecutive, then the enemy died....

Kane
March 12th, 2002, 22:15
Tales of Destiny was the same system as ToP. a 3d version of that might be interesting. Is it done in isometric format?

password0k
March 12th, 2002, 23:44
I haven't played about half of those games. Secret of Evermore was a good game that I never got into. Quest64 was a waste of my money. Anyone want to take it off my hands?

Exodus
March 13th, 2002, 00:53
i'm pretty sure i can get my hands on star ocean 2. so i guess i'll have to check it out for myself. how much play time is there and how many characters are there for you to control?

Eface
March 15th, 2002, 23:34
there is about..... errmmm, i dunno, i don't keep track of that... but there are 2 characters you ALWAYS play, and the rest must be found, up to a total of 8 characters. I think it's a great to any rpg collection

Mr Urt
March 15th, 2002, 23:48
man, I need to get shopping this weekend. I gotta pick up FFTactics, Star Ocean 2, Xenogears, and MGS (does ne1 know which is better, the PSX or the PC version¿)

btw, congrats on 1000 posts Eface (ha ha, I beat u :p )

Kane
March 15th, 2002, 23:52
Welcome, gentlemen, to the 1000 posts club. Please wipe your feet before entering.
The only real differences between PSX and PC version:
PC: Has perspective correction. In theory, should run faster
PSX: Can run in Res above 1024x768, Savestate support.
I'd pick up the PC version (unless the PSX one is a hell of a lot cheaper)

Mr Urt
March 15th, 2002, 23:57
probably is. with the resent smash release of MGS2, the stores decided to up the price to ~$40 for a game that, at it's age, should cost only ~$20. o, well. maybe I'll just wait. (I doubt I'll get all of those games this weekend neways...in fact, I doubt I'll get ne of the games this weekend)

Esturk
March 16th, 2002, 01:24
At the rate you guys are going, you'll be in the 3000 posts club in no time!

Exodus
March 16th, 2002, 01:51
well, i wouldn't say no time... but somewhere in the near future.

i'll have to check SO2 out.

Ryos
March 16th, 2002, 11:42
> how much play time is there

If you only play it through once, about sixty or so hours of gameplay on the first go. This is one of those games that can be replayed quite a lot, however, what with the two different storylines (play Claude's first) and numerous difficulty levels and many characters.

> and how many characters are there for you to control?

There are a total of 12 characters. You are only required to control two.

SO 2 is one of the few PSX RPGs I really enjoy.

Kellicros
March 16th, 2002, 14:40
Game Discussion forum just opened, let's talk about this there. moving.

Shadow Lady
March 16th, 2002, 16:00
moving and moving...
all in here becomes a moved thread, those mods...

thatwaywardguy
March 16th, 2002, 22:27
quest 64 is an insult to RPGs

Kellicros
March 17th, 2002, 02:48
Originally posted by Shadow Lady
moving and moving...
all in here becomes a moved thread, those mods...
That's our job. ;)

Mordred
March 17th, 2002, 05:18
Why in ther world is Legend of Dragoon in there? It's one of the greatest RPG's i've ever played...there's nothing in any other RPG (Except maybe Mario RPG) like their additions system! And the characters SPEAK in the cinematics! This is a foriegn concept in most RPG's! ---my two cents.

Ryos
March 17th, 2002, 05:32
> there's nothing in any other RPG (Except maybe Mario RPG) like their additions system!

Considering the additions system is one of the most annoying systems out there, that's actually a good thing...

> And the characters SPEAK in the cinematics!

That's not a good thing when the "voice actors" are completely annoying.

I guess I COULD talk about the FF7 plot/characters ripoff, but I don't feel like tracking down the review I did for it a while back.

Strider
March 17th, 2002, 06:04
> And the characters SPEAK in the cinematics!

>> That's not a good thing when the "voice actors" are completely annoying.

heh, imo there need not be voices in cinematics for the cinematic to be good... just look at the CC movies, the lack of sound did not matter becuase of the immensive CG work

Cless
March 17th, 2002, 06:11
Why isn't ff8 on that list. It sucks. Quest was bad but not the worst. And Legend of the Dragoon was a farely good game. I would add FFX to that list too. It had no orignally to it. Just square reusing old ideas. But at the same time I am biased against sony because they make crapy system like the ps2 that sratches discs. and FFX is one the best rpg's on ps2 right now.

Exodus
March 18th, 2002, 00:57
unfortunetly, many RPGs aren't original anymore... its quite annoying. they've made so many, that completly original plots are rare. new battle systems are introduced every once in a while at least.

Eface
March 18th, 2002, 01:04
Yeah, but i havent seen a nice battle system for ages. The final fantasy 7 system was nice, and the SO2 engine was very nice, i mean, bosses DO get my heart pumped for action...

Currently i'm plaing legend of dragoon, it's a nice system as well, but the magic is a bit underrated.

About the story, we all know that that's the point where ff7 just takes the lead, for the modern rpg's that is.

Exodus
March 18th, 2002, 01:07
well, the story as a whole is not that original- confused hero chasing a man from his past who is trying to destroy the world. don't get me wrong, the story is great.

i'm playing Vagrant Story now, and that battle system is neat.

Strider
March 18th, 2002, 03:20
the cc battle system was a variated one of the ff7+ battle systems, the camera zooming and everything was the same but the element use, element field, and stamina points and regeneration rate are new

Exodus
March 18th, 2002, 19:43
stamina was used in Xenogears first, but the rest i didin't find in any other game.

Kane
March 18th, 2002, 19:44
I reckon they should have released FFX with a Jap Voc/Eng Sub option.

Exodus
March 18th, 2002, 19:56
wait, so you HAVE to let them talk aloud? no reading?

Kane
March 18th, 2002, 20:02
I'd like subs. I think there is a sub option, or it might just have been that someone subbed the probo movies I was watchin.

Exodus
March 18th, 2002, 21:16
i'd much prefer to read, as i probably read faster than they can speak, and i'm fairly impatient...

Laban
March 19th, 2002, 13:09
Shadowrun sucked pretty bad. I think FFMQ is a close second

Exodus
March 19th, 2002, 18:49
well, if we're back on topic then another RPG that i didn't like was Brandish.

Lyrai
March 21st, 2002, 03:31
How come no one said anything about Brainlord for the SNES? That game sucked toenails through my left shoe.

Mystic Quest is cool. It's a nice introduction for someone who's never played rpg's.

Cless
March 22nd, 2002, 23:09
I stil think thatl FF8 should be on that list

Xeven
March 22nd, 2002, 23:52
some people really like ff8 tho.. :p

Ryos
March 23rd, 2002, 00:00
Originally posted by Xeven
some people really like ff8 tho.. :p Some people really like Legend of Dragoon. What's your point? :p

Xeven
March 23rd, 2002, 00:02
umm, okey..:heh: were all free to decide i guess.. :p

chaosblade
March 23rd, 2002, 00:41
ARE YOU INSANE ???

Legend of dragoon cant possiably be on this poll . *SHOCKED*

Lord Kane , Be Ashemd . ;)

Xeven
March 23rd, 2002, 01:02
umm, sue him then? :heh:

Ryos
March 23rd, 2002, 01:16
> Legend of dragoon cant possiably be on this poll . *SHOCKED*

See what I mean? Some people love that game. On the other hand, some people think it's the greatest travesty to ever hit RPGs (like me :p).

Cless
March 23rd, 2002, 06:50
lod is good

Cless
March 23rd, 2002, 06:51
Ryos why do you keep changing your avatar?

Strider
March 23rd, 2002, 07:01
well his mind wanders a lot so nobody knows, i still think he shoulda stayed with yogurt, btw... u could have fit those 2 posts into 1...

Cless
March 23rd, 2002, 07:45
I know, but thought about at two different times.
And they are two different thoughts.

Strider
March 23rd, 2002, 07:59
yeah but still u can usually separate different thoughts with a couple empty spaces

Cless
March 23rd, 2002, 08:05
oh well that was how I felt like posting my thoughts

Strider
March 23rd, 2002, 08:12
oh well no point in going off topic for me anyways, i just have a nack for being angered with double posting since i was a moderator at a forum once a while back

Exodus
March 23rd, 2002, 14:42
hmmm... anyways....
i didn't find anything really wrong with LoD or FF8. i guess i must not be very picky. i think the major thing that would make me not like an RPG would be if its "happy", and since both are not, they work for me.

Strider
March 23rd, 2002, 17:47
> i didn't find anything really wrong with LoD or FF8. i guess i must not be very picky. i think the major thing that would make me not like an RPG would be if its "happy", and since both are not, they work for me.


OOooooooo!!! happy games! i hate those! so unrealistic... well its unrealistic to kill dragons with limit breaks but still atleast the character characteristics are more realistic