Final Fantasy 13 (360) really does look worse then ps3.

[Squall-Leonhart]

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7469/20100303074330.jpg
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8539/20100303074858.jpg

[redlofredlof]

Are both XBOX images?
I knew this was going to happen.
Also the fact that the game was cut short because of the media size limitations on the XBOX.

[Squall-Leonhart]

no Aa :(

[redlofredlof]

no Aa :(

Is this the first FAIL for 360? I don't think so.

[@ruantec]

No, it doesn´t and i can confirm that all pics we´ve seen so far are just pure fake or bad images from scans. anyways i already ordered the PS3 version and i´ll have to wait a little to compare them and see if there is any difference at all but i doubt it. until that am going to enjoy the 360 version instead.

Some pics from gamespot:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2964/95089920100214790screen.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2964/95089920100214790screen.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2964/95089920100214790screen.jpg

[Lex_Light]

That's logical, because Xbox 360 has lower specs than PS3. :(

[Silenus]

I would like to see firsthand shots from one of you guys, maybe makotech or @ruantec can post some from their setups.

[Spyhop]

That's logical, because FF13 was developed for PS3 and ported to 360

fixed

[Hard core Rikki]

No, it doesn´t
No, it does look worse. Please do not make unbacked claims for what is easily verifiable.
Even the "fixed" screenshots released by Square after their PR stunt about how quality will be the same had glaring differences, multiple-source lighting, selfshadows, texture quality, and depth of field among others.

[Fadingz]

I need money for PS3... you people are teasing me T.T

I'm a huge FF fan...
http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/images/Evercool-Rifling-Fan/Evercool-Rifling-Fan.jpg

(p.s. Squall, were you drunk when you typed the title? xD)

[koko]

Ask Mako, he was playing it :D

[Dynamo]

No, it doesn´t and i can confirm that all pics we´ve seen so far are just pure fake or bad images from scans. anyways i already ordered the PS3 version and i´ll have to wait a little to compare them and see if there is any difference at all but i doubt it. until that am going to enjoy the 360 version instead.


Aren't those pics in your post the ps3 ones that SE said they faked by "accident" for the 360?

[makotech222]

I havent seen the ps3 first-hand, but the only bad part about the xbox360 from my discerning eye, is the lack of good AA. Everything else looks fine. If it was a PC game though, i would complain a lot more lol.

[blueshogun96]

That's logical, because Xbox 360 has lower specs than PS3. :(

Not that much lower.

[Noja87]

Confirmed : FF13 X360 FMVs run at 576p too


Neogaf has confirmed that the cutscenes of the x360 version of FF13 run at 576p .

It was confirmed before that the ingame FF13 x360 version ran at 576p days ago.

Beyond3D has also confirmed the FMV resolution of x360 version to be at 576p.

The cutscenes of the ps3 version runs at 1080p,as confirmed by Eurogamer's Digital Foundry division.

N4G.com : Confirmed : FF13 X360 FMVs run at 576p too (http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-485472.aspx?CT=1)


The Realtime Gameplay of FF13-PS3 runs at 720p while for FF13-360 its runs at 576p. The FF13-PS3 cutscenes run at 1080p while for FF13-360 it is 576p.

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I personally don't give a damn as all i have its a small SD Tv for my 360. All games look bad by default.

[koko]

Maybe that is an exclusive feature for PS3?
I don't think it is a bad port.

[Hiei-YYH]

looks like this port isn't that good... at least is playable i guess lol

[Phil]

This is the reason I just got my PS3. Afaik FF13 plays at 720p

[koko]

gimme your PSN nickname :D

[Phil]

motohvayshun

[Yeloazndevil]

all this bs who cares if the 360 version looks crappier, idiots will still buy a FF game

[Irukapooka]

Wasn't FF13 originally made for the PS3?

Remind me why they ported it to the 360...to make more money, maybe?

[Fadingz]

Hope they will make a PC version then, since it's on XBOX already! ><

[Malk]

Blocky fingers are a feature in the Xbox 360 version.

[@ruantec]

No, it does look worse. Please do not make unbacked claims for what is easily verifiable.
Even the "fixed" screenshots released by Square after their PR stunt about how quality will be the same had glaring differences, multiple-source lighting, selfshadows, texture quality, and depth of field among others.

Am not talking about screenshots i saw on the net or something like that... am talking about what i've seen on my own HD-TV. i just don't want to post any shots here for some obvious reasons.

Confirmed : FF13 X360 FMVs run at 576p too
Neogaf has confirmed that the cutscenes of the x360 version of FF13 run at 576p .
It was confirmed before that the ingame FF13 x360 version ran at 576p days ago.
Beyond3D has also confirmed the FMV resolution of x360 version to be at 576p.
The cutscenes of the ps3 version runs at 1080p,as confirmed by Eurogamer's Digital Foundry division.
N4G.com : Confirmed : FF13 X360 FMVs run at 576p too (http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-485472.aspx?CT=1)
The Realtime Gameplay of FF13-PS3 runs at 720p while for FF13-360 its runs at 576p. The FF13-PS3 cutscenes run at 1080p while for FF13-360 it is 576p.
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I personally don't give a damn as all i have its a small SD Tv for my 360. All games look bad by default.

the movies may have lower resolutions and that could be true. still i can confirm that the Videos looks pretty amazing and the Quality is awesome aswell and you don't feel like you're missing something. the reason for the complain in the shots at the main post of this thread is because for some reasons her hair looks like if it were "Pixelized" which is just the way they took put things toguether... still no other character has any problems nor look bad but quite the opposite they look freaking great.

[Squall-Leonhart]

game is **** on xbox

nuff said.

[raksmey1309]

Game is bad overall no matter host console it is on

Game is bad overall no matter host console it is on nuff said

[Silenus]

all this bs who cares if the 360 version looks crappier, idiots will still buy a FF game

Hey don't call me an idiot. :p

Am not talking about screenshots i saw on the net or something like that... am talking about what i've seen on my own HD-TV. i just don't want to post any shots here for some obvious reasons.



What do you mean by obvious reasons?

[Dynamo]

Am not talking about screenshots i saw on the net or something like that... am talking about what i've seen on my own HD-TV. i just don't want to post any shots here for some obvious reasons.


You have the game for 360? :???: :lol:

Just confused because the shots in your first post were the fakes.

[Lex_Light]

Wasn't FF13 originally made for the PS3?

Remind me why they ported it to the 360...to make more money, maybe?

Yes, I think. :)

[Yeloazndevil]

Hey don't call me an idiot. :p

of course not just meant the idiots that would buy a FF that are not on this forum ;)

[Silenus]

of course not just meant the idiots that would buy a FF that are not on this forum ;)

That didn't help at all.

[Spyhop]

I still may buy FF13. The english reviews I've seen say it's good, and I've since learned that the game does open up about halfway through.

[Xblade]

Hey don't call me an idiot. :p



What do you mean by obvious reasons?

The 360 version of XIII has already been leaked online silly.


*watches all the 360 pirates run to torrent sites*

I still may buy FF13. The english reviews I've seen say it's good, and I've since learned that the game does open up about halfway through.

This is why I say don't knock it till you try it :p. You may like things that more "renowned" reviewers may take as a death note.

[Spyhop]

*watches all the 360 pirates run to newzbin*

fixed

[Xblade]

Id like to buy the game, but at my current financial predicament(also known as FLAT broke), I'll probably borrow it from my friend after hes done with it.

[Exodus]

I still may buy FF13. The english reviews I've seen say it's good, and I've since learned that the game does open up about halfway through.
Just do what I do - wait until it's dirt cheap. No matter what, it's no big loss.

[@ruantec]

I have to admit that is sligthly inferior than the PS3 version after getting the PS3 japanese version to test and taking in mind am using Component cable on my x360 while using HDMI on my PS3... still the difference are small in my eyes and PORTS are always inferior and that´s a FACT i would say. still x360 gamers aren´t missing that much and i think its safe to say that rarely FF gamers care about graphics or the slighly bigger amount of EYE-CANDY but what we do care most is the gameplay and as far as i can judge its the same in both consoles.

the slightly better quality in videos on the ps3 and probably texture doesn´t really take the fun out of it nor make the ingame experience to look THAT better. as for the graphics details... just as i mentioned the difference are so small that are barely notaciable... only videos are better if you´re a blu-ray freak(not that the x360 is that bad actually)...

last but not least if you´re expecting the PS3 to be that SUPERIOR in comparation to the x360 you´re going to be dissapointed because the differences in game aren´t that big and probably not what you´re expecting to see after thinking about the word SUPERIOR in most cases looks exactly the same and only in few areas the differences comes to light but as i already mentioned the difference isn´t big at all and probably due to the difference in resolution.

[DarkSamus]

Makes perfect sense @ruantec

Ain't touching it on any console however

[Silenus]

...i think its safe to say that rarely FF gamers care about graphics or the slighly bigger amount of EYE-CANDY but what we do care most is the gameplay and as far as i can judge its the same in both consoles...


You are wrong to generalize on that one. Most ff fans REALLY care about graphics, Squarenix has spoiled us.

Although I'll say it again, this game is a waste on consoles, it should be on PC with all his glory.

[Noja87]

Final Fantasy XIII for PlayStation 3 - GameRankings (http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/928790-final-fantasy-xiii/index.html)

As Western role-playing games have evolved, delving into open world, player-driven territory (Elder Scrolls, Fallout) and cinematic, cross-genre experiences (Mass Effect, Borderlands), Japanese role-playing games have remained largely the same - stuck in a rut, even - telling tales of teenage angst and upbeat heroic fantasy we've heard countless times before. We're not saying we wanted Final Fantasy to copy WRPG mechanics. We simply wanted - quite desperately - for Final Fantasy XIII to be the best JRPG of all time. You have to hand it to Square Enix for trying to move things forward - better that than yet another rehash of the tried and tested Final Fantasy formula (the less said about Infinite Undiscovery the better). But it does so along a path so narrow and straight that you long for the days of old. When Vanille dies, she sometimes says: "What went wrong?" It's a question we find ourselves wondering as well.

Thats the weakest critics start i have seen on a FF game. And thats the ps3 version. The 360 version will probably get lower scores due to multiple disc changing, inferior graphics and probably some frame rate issues as well. Luckily my friend said he pre-order it (with doubts) and i can borrow it when he finishes with it.

[@ruantec]

You are wrong to generalize on that one. Most ff fans REALLY care about graphics, Squarenix has spoiled us.

Probably you´re right but the thing is i wish you could see both versions and realize two things:

1. The so called SUPERIOR isn´t as superior as you probably may think and the real differences are small and not notaciable at all.

2. Seriously speaking if people care about graphics that much then they shouldn´t play FF13 as there are games with better graphics on the PS3.


Although I'll say it again, this game is a waste on consoles, it should be on PC with all his glory.

Seconded.

[@ruantec]

Let´s put an end to the story and if this graphics are bad(i couldn´t make better pics with my cam but still the x360 graphics are notaciable) then seriously... i don´t know what to think.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9316/1000719v.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/290/1000718f.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2310/1000716k.jpg
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http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9793/1000708b.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4491/1000707v.jpg

[Noja87]

Review: Final Fantasy XIII | Edge Online (http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/review-final-fantasy-xiii?page=0%2C1)

5/10...

[@ruantec]

5/10 seems something expected in my eyes... the game isn´t perfect but i have to say i love the new fighting style plus graphics are awesome in my eyes.. The story so far isn´t that good but for sure not as bad as the previous version.. still i have to play it a bit more to give a final veredict.

[Xblade]

5/10 seems something expected in my eyes... the game isn´t perfect but i have to say i love the new fighting style plus graphics are awesome in my eyes.. The story so far isn´t that good but for sure not as bad as the previous version.. still i have to play it a bit more to give a final veredict.
I'd wait for more respectable sites to review it. -_-

Hes just complaining about linearity and he doesn't like the story.
His train of thought is more linear than the game itself, he should be more open minded.

[Matis]

I haven't read most of the topic, and I don't intend to, but if this comparison video is real, then the difference is not really that big. The X360 sports a little bit more jaggies(only noticeable in the hair, really), and is slightly blurrier on the whole.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off

Still, it's not like we are comparing the graphics of FF I for the NES against the graphics of FF VI for the SNES, or the quality of sprites in Super Mario Bros against those of Muramasa or Odin Sphere.

If you have a PS3 and a hi-def TV, then go for the PS3 version. If you don't have either, then it's pretty much the same which one you get(though even without an HDTV the PS3 version is still 'better' because it only has a single disc).

EDIT: Whoops. Almost forgot to post the link.

[@ruantec]

I'd wait for more respectable sites to review it. -_-

Hes just complaining about linearity and he doesn't like the story.
His train of thought is more linear than the game itself, he should be more open minded.

I´ve found a very interesting link that makes me lol hard... while the PS3 version scores 84 the x360 scores 87!!!! LOL!
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/494/37903682.jpg

Link (http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?sort=relevance&termType=all&ts=final+fantasy+XIII)

[Spyhop]

I'm waiting on the GT review. I trust GT.

[Xblade]

Gamespot gave it a 8.5 citing the linearity and the token girlish character as the only downside. I can deal with both, so I think its a safe buy for me (buying even if I borrow it from a friend first, same as XII.)

[Spyhop]

Gamespot is absolutely not trustworthy as they've proven many times before. Remember Kane and Lynch?

[Noja87]

Another 5/10.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8125/77065382.jpg

[Xblade]

Gamespot is absolutely not trustworthy as they've proven many times before. Remember Kane and Lynch?

**** like that happens everywhere all the time unfortunately.

Another 5/10.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8125/77065382.jpg

Complaining about the same thing, from another unreliable review site.

Its this review, that brings an otherwise 90+ metacritic score into the 80s.

That biased phuck should go play a WRPG fall in a ditch and gtfo. :p

[koko]

IGN, I'm waiting for their review.

[Xblade]

IGN, I'm waiting for their review.

Ign posted saying their review won't be up until monday because of that ghetto Y2k ps3 crap that happened.

[Noja87]

They should have ported the Ps2 build they had to the Wii and continue their work there. Could have been a better more complete game :p

[@ruantec]

Actually i don´t trust in reviewers as they are humans just like us and as such they just judge and write things depending on there tastes.. what they may hate may be fun for me so i believe in nothing by my own EYES and judge for me.

i´ve seen both already and for me the only difference i´ve seen its the blu-ray against 3 DL-DVD´s. in my opinion i don´t care which version to play as both are the same in my eyes. anyways i would choose the x360 this time for me even being a big Playstation fan myself.

Reasons:
1. I play mostly on the x360 lately.
2. 3 DL-DVD´s remind me the FF7 days by having 3 discs.
3. My PS3 HDMI cable isn´t working anymore and until i don´t buy a new one i can´t use my PS3 through HDMI.
4. I don´t have the PS3 version yet and my friend already took back his japanese copy of FF13 for the PS3.

[Xblade]

Actually i don´t trust in reviewers as they are humans just like us and as such they just judge and write things depending on there tastes.. what they may hate may be fun for me so i believe in nothing by my own EYES and judge for me.

i´ve seen both already and for me the only difference i´ve seen its the blu-ray against 3 DL-DVD´s. in my opinion i don´t care which version to play as both are the same in my eyes. anyways i would choose the x360 this time for me even being a big Playstation fan myself.

Reasons:
1. I play mostly on the x360 lately.
2. 3 DL-DVD´s remind me the FF7 days by having 3 discs.
3. My PS3 HDMI cable isn´t working anymore and until i don´t buy a new one i can´t use my PS3 through HDMI.
4. I don´t have the PS3 version yet and my friend already took back his japanese copy of FF13 for the PS3.

Well its obvious that you'd choose the version available to you.

[@ruantec]

Well its obvious that you'd choose the version available to you.

You got the point m8!! actually it´s been that way since i bought both consoles... most of the times i play games months ahead on the x360 before i can get my hands on the ps3 versions and just like this time am still waiting for my own ps3 copy of FF13 to add to my collection.

[bleh bleh bleh]

lol, too much money to spend? :p

anyway,

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8125/77065382.jpg

how can overall be 5.0 when the average is 6.9? stupid review..

[Dynamo]

It's only because this reviewer had high expectations and his own mind made up how this game should be in his eyes. Gave it an extra kick by doing his math incorrectly at the end on purpose.

We simply wanted - quite desperately - for Final Fantasy XIII to be the best JRPG of all time.

Any review that says that you might as well just stop reading.

[Spyhop]

Actually i don´t trust in reviewers as they are humans just like us and as such they just judge and write things depending on there tastes.. what they may hate may be fun for me so i believe in nothing by my own EYES and judge for me.

i´ve seen both already and for me the only difference i´ve seen its the blu-ray against 3 DL-DVD´s. in my opinion i don´t care which version to play as both are the same in my eyes. anyways i would choose the x360 this time for me even being a big Playstation fan myself.

Reasons:
1. I play mostly on the x360 lately.
2. 3 DL-DVD´s remind me the FF7 days by having 3 discs.
3. My PS3 HDMI cable isn´t working anymore and until i don´t buy a new one i can´t use my PS3 through HDMI.
4. I don´t have the PS3 version yet and my friend already took back his japanese copy of FF13 for the PS3.

5. The 360 version is already available on bittorrrent.

Admit it :p

[Dynamo]

Face-Off: Final Fantasy XIII (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off?page=1)

Digital Foundry exposes the ravishing flaws of Square Enix's programming. (http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=7287&mp=1)

Well, now that we've heard all the promises from SE and all the eye-witness accounts of how the versions compare, it is time for an unbiased side-by-side comparison, courtesy of Digital Foundry, which I summed up.

* The 360 version is indeed sub-HD due to misuse of Xbox 360 hardware by SE programmers. It could easily be 720p had it been handled correctly. It's 1024x576, with 2x multi-sampling anti-aliasing. This is up against native 720p on the original PlayStation 3 version, again with the same 2x level of MSAA, representing a fairly enormous drop of around a third of the overall resolution. (read the source for a more detailed explanation)

(Resolution side-by-side comparison here)

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/elgefe02/photobucket%20sez%20no%20more%20than%202500/586906a0.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/elgefe02/photobucket%20sez%20no%20more%20than%202500/fee29715.jpg

[Noja87]

don't see any real major jaw dropping life changing difference.

Between

EDITORIAL: FFXIII- Why the critics are wrong

Freedom. It's a difficult thing for any game to achieve; even just the illusion of it. But what some critics forget is whether or not a game actually needs it.

That goes especially for RPGs. And the most misunderstood victim of this confused snobbery is the biggest RPG of them all.

Final Fantasy XIII has been widely criticised for being linear in some less-than-desirable reviews. Yet the grave significance of the game's earlier linearity has been blown out of all proportion by the critics.

Yes, the first 20-or-so hours of FFXIII are mercilessly linear. You're pretty much locked to a single path. The producers have said this is intentional to teach you the game - and they're completely right.

It certainly does the job - even a complete RPG virgin would be bouncing between paradigms and summoning Eidolons like they were born to do so after that amount of repetition.

I admit, however, that it's a little overkill. 20 hours is a long time. You could comfortably finish both Halo 3 and ODST on Heroic in that time. But it's certainly not a waste of effort. Why has it become such a huge focus?

There are plenty of amazing factors that have been glossed over by the critics. To start with, the battle system is incredible. Just fighting your way through these paths and taking on bosses as the ATB system opens itself to you is absolutely thrilling.

Next, the truly stunning backdrops; stunning to the extent that you stop to admire your surroundings and feel excitement to delve into each new area just for its visual splendour.

The story - admittedly, a little hit and miss at times - is nonetheless incredibly deep, well developed and relatively easy to follow (unlike FFVII, which I found to be a tangled mess of different characters whose positions and roles were hard to keep track of).

Besides, isn't this premise - running down linear paths enjoying the battling, gorgeous scenery and plot - the exact same as some of the most revered action games: God of War, Uncharted 2, Killzone...?

Just because FFXIII has an RPG label, why should it be penalised for doing what they all do?

Eventually, of course, the game does open up. It's not the sprawling continent-worth of open land you might want, but reaching the underworld of Pulse gives you more Zelda-like open fields to explore and plenty of side-quests to embark on. A good 50 hours of them should you be so diligent.

Other complaints in reviews that give scores as low as 5/10 (5/10!) are on the lack of towns.

Towns?! Why are they even considered fun? You might say they're staples of the RPG genre.
Apparently, they're a necessity. Why? They're a huge cliché - and, dare we say, FFXIII is better off without them.

In a typical RPG town, you wander around speaking to people who, in most cases, have nothing useful or entertaining to say.

I loved FFVII, but hated the town stages - repetitive trudges to make sure I'd spoken to every last person, flicking through mundane scripts in the fear that I might miss something important.

Which of the previous FF games, or any RPGs for that matter, are truly open anyway? Yes, you have areas wider than corridors, or multiple paths at times, but when are you ever truly free? Like, free in an Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion sense?

In the best Final Fantasy games, the missions you embark on and the areas you encounter are, in 99.9% of cases, dealt to you in the order the story dictates. You can't roam outside of that set path or access any area in the game world from the start - because you don't have the items or abilities to do so.

And in moments when you can wander prematurely into unknown territory, the enemies you encounter are so strong that just a fart in your general direction wipes out your entire squad. Final Fantasy is a game that rewards patience - and always has been.

So after all those less-than-desirable reviews, think about it before you face-palm and cancel your pre-order.

FFXIII looks absolutely incredible. The battle system is one of the best in the genre. The cutscenes are the best in any videogame. Ever. The music is incredibly affecting. The story, while not faultless, is intriguing, deep and yet easy to follow.

Honestly, can a bit of linearity spoil all that? Like 5/10, spoil it? Do me a favour.

FFXIII is the result of four years of blood and sweat from the most well-respected and committed RPG developer in the world.

Consider it a brilliant action game with RPG elements if you must. Just buy it and enjoy.

Feature: FFXIII: Why the haters are wrong - ComputerAndVideoGames.com (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=237956)

GT review is up

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[@ruantec]

I have some arguments regarding this two pics :p

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/elgefe02/photobucket%20sez%20no%20more%20than%202500/586906a0.jpg

http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww75/elgefe02/photobucket%20sez%20no%20more%20than%202500/fee29715.jpg

Those two pics definitelly shows what i´ve been talking about here all the time... it is true that the x360 is inferior at some point but when i look for graphics i look for other stuff and not just over-brilliant colors on my TV also there are many things to take in mind before judging.

FACT: the PS3 version is slightly superior.

What should we take in count still:
1.Screenshots could be taken using Component cables on the x360 which makes the image to be inferior against the PS3 HDMI and a straight comparation can be unfair.
2. Higher colors is not what represents a NATURAL image for me because in real-life we don´t have brilliant colors but DIRT and less SATURATED images.

3. Its time to play FF13 a little more :p


Here (http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=10165&article_id=995017) are some screen comparation so that people can see how small the differences are also check this (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off) page that have some negative points but after you see the video comparation all you can say is "FACEPALM"

[P_RePTiLe]

Those shots represents what they are, a resolution difference.

[@ruantec]

Those shots represents what they are, a resolution difference.

I´ll take your word on that then :p

on a serious note... i know they do but i was refering to other aspects that should take care in count too. :D

[Exodus]

If there's no resolution difference in that pic (and I hope they wouldn't make a stupid mistake like that), than the PS3 version looks nicer.

[Xblade]

Those shots represents what they are, a resolution difference.

There is a slight difference in texture quality, though this can only be seen with a scrutinizing side by side comparison.

[PsyMan]

So, the 360 version is visually less stunning than the PS3 one. Thanks for pointing that out, but what difference does it actually make? I mean, apart from giving fanboys a reason to be ehhm... fanboys. :laugh:

[Xblade]

So, the 360 version is visually less stunning than the PS3 one. Thanks for pointing that out, but what difference does it actually make? :laugh:
People with 2 systems and a choice will get the ps3 version.

1 disc vs 3 and higher resolution are decisive characteristics.
The 360 version is already crippled by piracy(a lot of the pirates this time around would of bought the game if that was their only option) and the slight inferiority will further hurt sales.

Of course I don't mean to say that it won't sell like hotcakes anyway.

[@ruantec]

So, the 360 version is visually less stunning than the PS3 one. Thanks for pointing that out, but what difference does it actually make? I mean, apart from giving fanboys a reason to be ehhm... fanboys. :laugh:

The 360 version is visually inferior but the differences are quite small and if you watch the video in one of the links of my previous post you will see they are really small and isn´t really worth to even cry loud telling the PS3 is any better which is what i´ve been trying to point out here :thumb:


......without success i guess :(

UPDATE:
Here´s the link of the video:
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-xbox-360-ps3-comparison

Also check out this performance analysis where the x360 keeps solid 30fps almost anytime while the PS3 has some troubles in some scenes:

Despite its many shortcomings, the 360 rendition of FFXIII irons out some of the performance issues of the PS3 version.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-360-vs-ps3-performance-analysis

Movies comparation:

Find out what happens when 32GB of FMV data from the PS3 version of FFXIII gets compressed down to fit onto Xbox 360 DVD...

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-fmv-comparison

[PsyMan]

1 disc vs 3 and higher resolution are decisive characteristics.

Indeed, ejecting a disc from the disc drive and putting another one in is such a decisive characteristic that no person on earth would want to suffer from it. Never again shall I buy a game that forces me to put a disc in a drive, or makes me turn the system On and Off.
All this should not be needed. This is what keeps people from buying games nowadays.

The 360 version is already crippled by piracy(a lot of the pirates this time around would of bought the game if that was their only option) and the slight inferiority will further hurt sales.

One more reason to get a 360 then. :lol:

360+FF13= 150$
PS3+FF13= 350$

ouch xD

Edit: WTF the 360 plays smoother too xD
They ported the thing within some months while the PS3 development took like years... yet the 360 version is smoother? HAHAHAHA xD

[Xblade]

Indeed, ejecting a disc from the disc drive and putting another one in is such a decisive characteristic that no person on earth would want to suffer from it. Never again shall I buy a game that forces me to put a disc in a drive, or makes me turn the system On and Off.
All this should not be needed. This is what keeps people from buying games nowadays.

Taking people's text out of context to embarrass yourself is something that makes people lose faith in the human race.

/sarcasm
Ahahahaha.

The 360 version is visually inferior but the differences are quite small and if you watch the video in one of the links of my previous post you will see they are really small and isn´t really worth to even cry loud telling the PS3 is any better which is what i´ve been trying to point out here :thumb:


......without success i guess :(

UPDATE:
Here´s the link of the video:
DigitalFoundry- Final Fantasy XIII Xbox 360/PS3 Comparison (http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-xbox-360-ps3-comparison)

Also check out this performance analysis where the x360 keeps solid 30fps almost anytime while the PS3 has some troubles in some scenes:

DigitalFoundry- Final Fantasy XIII 360 vs. PS3 Performance Analysis (http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-360-vs-ps3-performance-analysis)

Movies comparation:

DigitalFoundry- Final Fantasy XIII FMV Comparison (http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-fmv-comparison)
Expecting it not to run smoother with that resolution and texture cut is unrealistic.

I also noticed you conveniently forgot to link this video from that same site.
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-transparency-issues

[Dynamo]

I was coming more from the aspect they are already using phases like 'sloppy port'. Which really isn't quite the case, although visually it's a bit of a difference. Maybe it was a space issue? I really have no idea.



One more reason to get a 360 then. :lol:

360+FF13= 150$
PS3+FF13= 350$

ouch xD

Edit: WTF the 360 plays smoother too xD
They ported the thing within some months while the PS3 development took like years... yet the 360 version is smoother? HAHAHAHA xD

That's a fanboy statement.

[PsyMan]

That's a fanboy statement.

Is it?
A 360 costs like 180-200$ and if you pirate the games it's "free".
A PS3 is like 300$ and the game is like 60$

Not to mention that used 360 systems with fixed "RROD" issues sell for like 90$. The particular issue can be actually fixed, once and for all, if you know what you're doing.
PS3 systems though, even used ones, are quite expensive (200$ at least?).

Just do the math.

[Dynamo]

And we are talking about console price.. why? It all subjective, I personally like having the harddrive and Bluray. Also I see the pirate statement so I know where you come from. :lol:

[Xblade]

Is it?
A 360 costs like 180-200$ and if you pirate the games it's "free".
A PS3 is like 300$ and the game is like 60$

Not to mention that used 360 systems with fixed "RROD" issues sell for like 90$. The particular issue can be actually fixable, once and for all, if you know what you're doing.
PS3 systems though, even used ones, are quite expensive (200$ at least?).

Just do the math.

The ps3 is by all means worth its 300 buck price tag.

With the 360, you get what you pay for. Also you are making an assumption that most gamers will be buying a new console for this game. That is certainly not the case, and your post can be seen as fanboyism.

[PsyMan]

The ps3 is by all means worth its 300 buck price tag.

With the 360, you get what you pay for. Also you are making an assumption that most gamers will be buying a new console for this game. That is certainly not the case, and your post can be seen as fanboyism.

I'm just stating the facts. Nothing more.

360 has piracy. PS3 does not.

Used 360 systems are cheap. Used PS3 systems are not.

360 dies easily. PS3 does not.

Final Fantasy on PS3 looks a bit better. Final Fantasy on 360 plays a tiny bit smoother.

Fanboys buy consoles just for a single game. Even some casual gamers do.

The least total amount of money you're forced to pay to own the particular game varies per console and willingness to be legal.

Those are facts.
Stating that multiple discs are a "decisive characteristic" to choose what you'll get... That's fanboyism.

[blueshogun96]

lol, too much money to spend? :p

anyway,

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8125/77065382.jpg

how can overall be 5.0 when the average is 6.9? stupid review..

The average doesn't know jack s@#% about games anyway, so don't expect much.

[Xblade]

Stating that multiple discs are a "decisive characteristic" to choose what you'll get...

The fact remains that you took my words out of context.


multiple discs are a "decisive characteristic" to choose what you'll get...
See how that works?

[Dynamo]

People with 2 systems and a choice will get the ps3 version.

1 disc vs 3 and higher resolution are decisive characteristics.
The 360 version is already crippled by piracy(a lot of the pirates this time around would of bought the game if that was their only option) and the slight inferiority will further hurt sales.



Those are facts.
Stating that multiple discs are a "decisive characteristic" to choose what you'll get... That's fanboyism.


Taking people's text out of context to embarrass yourself is something that makes people lose faith in the human race.

/sarcasm
Ahahahaha.


Sales, not downloads.

:rolleyes:

[blueshogun96]

Question: No offense, but most of you appear to be Playstation fanboys (and it's nothing new to NGEmu). Does it really matter that the PS3 just looks a "little" bit better? Who gives a f@#%? Everything else is just about the same, and seriously, what do you expect? oO

[Dynamo]

I'm not a fanboy. I find it funny the amount of scrutiny it gets.

[Xblade]

Question: No offense, but most of you appear to be Playstation fanboys (and it's nothing new to NGEmu). Does it really matter that the PS3 just looks a "little" bit better? Who gives a f@#%? Everything else is just about the same, and seriously, what do you expect? oO

The only person making fanboyish post here is @ruantec.

:evil:

[PsyMan]

So you are saying you'd choose the visually inferior and 3 disc version over the 1 disc and visually superior version if you had a choice?

It depends.


Is the GFX change minimal or major?

Is the smoothness difference minimal or major?

Can I afford a system and game that'll cost me 360$ or should I go for some combination costing half the money, or even less if used? What are the possibilities of those systems breaking?

Is there going to be a PC version out? Will it turn out looking better? Will it play without a disc in the drive (:p)?

Will I have to buy a newer TV in order to enjoy the game the way it's meant to be on each system?

Choices... choices... Too many. :p





Edit, Just for the sake of it:

1 disc vs 3 and higher resolution are decisive characteristics.

How about no discs at all? :lol:

[Xblade]

It depends.


Is the GFX change minimal or major?

Is the smoothness difference minimal or major?

Can I afford a system and game that'll cost me 360$ or should I go for some combination costing half the money, or even less if used? What are the possibilities of those systems breaking?

Is there going to be a PC version out? Will it turn out looking better? Will it play without a disc in the drive (:p)?

Will I have to buy a newer TV in order to enjoy the game the way it's meant to be on each system?

Choices... choices... Too many. :p

So I guess you are one of those people who neglect facts if they don't support your train of thought? :rolleyes:

The majority of gamers are not going to buy a system for this game as it is multi console. Most gamers who have a choice will choose the slightly superior version, end story.

[@ruantec]

360 dies easily. PS3 does not.

i agree with the other points but i do not agree with that one... people should think whatever they want from me but probably am one of those lucky and unlucky guys out there but the thing is that two PS3 of mine has died because of the infamous YLOD and 1 had a dead laser while my x360 is still alive and kicking since the very first day i bought it.

again this opinion isn´t meant to show any "fanboysm" but somehow i had the feeling like the PS3 hates me :p

The only person making fanboyish post here is @ruantec.

:evil:

oh really??? who the hell told you that am a fanboy??? am probably the only one here that has got his hands on both versions and all i´ve posted so far its from my own experiences after seing both of them while many of you are just based others point of views and silly reviews to start silly wars in order to get more visitors.

as i already stated several times here am a Playstation fan but i really hate when people start pointing out things that are so minimal and making it look like there are worlds between them.. just as blueshogun stated.. who the hell really cares if its slightly better???? if you watch the videos from the links i posted you can see how minimal the difference really are.

[Xblade]

Edit, Just for the sake of it:



How about no discs at all? :lol:

How about you stay the topic at hand and stop exploring unlikely variables.

[Dynamo]

i agree with the other points but i do not agree with that one... people should think whatever they want from me but probably am one of those lucky and unlucky guys out there but the thing is that two PS3 of mine has died because of the infamous YLOD and 1 had a dead laser while my x360 is still alive and kicking since the very first day i bought it.

again this opinion isn´t meant to show any "fanboysm" but somehow i had the feeling like the PS3 hates me :p

That is true, playstations have always had problems with laser failure. I had terrible lucky early on with 360, in 2007 I went through 3..

[PsyMan]

i agree with the other points but i do not agree with that one...

OK then, allow me to rephrase that:

From my limited personal experience and what people say all over the places I go and the Internet, 360 dies easily. PS3 does not.


How about you stay the topic at hand and stop exploring unlikely variables.

Nope. :lol:

[@ruantec]

That is true, playstations have always had problems with laser failure. I had terrible lucky early on with 360, in 2007 I went through 3..

yea, i have no idea why but my freaking 360 is freaking stable and works like a charm which obviously made me change my early point of view against the 360.. the PS3 has giving me troubles always and i spend countless hours repairing them. atm i have two and 1 already got the YLOD and i´ve been lazy to repair it tho. the other one(40) is still working but today something strange happens and either the HDMI cable is broken or the PS3 HDMI Output is damaged... i will find it out tomorrow after buying a new cable tho.

so i hope people understand why i defend the 360 that much :p the freaking console works and eats even pancakes if you insert them into the drive {Sarcasm}

[koko]

Why the PS3 is the Best Blu-ray Player - Gear Feature at IGN (http://gear.ign.com/articles/107/1074564p1.html)
It deserves $299 USD


Fanboys buy consoles just for a single game. Even some casual gamers do.

Buying a console for one game doesn't make people fanboys. Because there's no choice. Plus, PS3 is full of awesome exclusives that I like. I don't like 360 games except GoW2

[blueshogun96]

That is true, playstations have always had problems with laser failure. I had terrible lucky early on with 360, in 2007 I went through 3..

Another reason Xbox1 still owns 360.

[Xblade]

Another reason Xbox1 still owns 360.
Xbox1 was a tank :p. Upon dropping the console, you'd be better off worrying about the floor.

[koko]

New comparisons:

http://scrawlfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Digital-Foundry-FF13-Comparison_01.jpg
Digital Foundry face-off sees PS3 Final Fantasy XIII the champion — SCRAWL (http://scrawlfx.com/2010/03/digital-foundry-face-off-sees-ps3-final-fantasy-xiii-the-champion)

Video comparison
Face-Off: Final Fantasy XIII | DigitalFoundry (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off?page=1)

[Paratech]

No offense but the differenced don't bother me that much. While I won't buy it at $59, I'll eventually buy the 360 version and it will be fine.

This isn't like a PS2 version vs a PS3 version.

[Hatorijr]

first off i am not here about ff 13(though can not wait to get my ps3 copy and my guides when they coem out) but about the 360. i admit it has ok games but when i sit there and watch 3 friends who had a 360 and how often they broke i can do nothing but laugh.

my friend had to go buy a new power brick for some odd reason and it was not long that it shorted out randomly and took out half the electronics in his house(do not ask me how i just know what i witnessed). so now explaint o me how thats even remotely logical that a console can do this and still be worth using.

my other 2 friends well, they both got rrods and well even after getting them repaired, kept getting rrods. is it reasonably cheaper to keep paying almost 100 to keep getting it repaired when a ps3 is much less likely to break? yea a ps3 costs a bit more but in the long term, a console that rarely if ever breaks cheaper or is a cheaper console that breaks often cheaper?

i ask this because everyone seems to think about price, well there is a good thing to think about when you decide on a console for price. as someone already said earlier, you get what you pay for and it has been that way with the 360 for a lot of people. rrod is a sign of that choice, a cheap console may get you a nice system for less money but unless you're lucky you will regret it later. yea it may have exclusive games that another wont but all consoles do. hell i like a wii game once in a while but nintendo disappointed me a long time ago and idk if i am ready to forgive them just yet. so i will just leave their stuff alone for now. i play all consoles and i can even say i am almost entirely a pc gamer. i just like my console games once in a while and i like knowing when i turn on my console that it boots ok and wont blow up or anything.

as ruantec has said, the differences are not major but for me it will be. the reason being is i am the type of person that looks at EVERYTHING i take my sweet time to go everywhere and look at everything and i notice way to much for my own good. so to buy an inferior version, no matter how inferior, is disrespectful for myself.

and i saw ruantec got called a fanboy and before anyone trys to call me one i will say this: i am a die hard final fantasy player, have been for years, i own copies of 7 and 8 for ps1 and pc and i play both and i still do. i buy the final fantasy game for the console its on and now in 13's case, the one it was INTENDED for. final fantasy was nintendo's series for a while but failed for whatever reason and it moved on to sony, and in my eyes its still sony's series and xbox just got a port of it for whatever reason. frankly i am quite irritated with how this has ended up, final fantasy was exclusive to sony, and i believe SE has screwed up to even bother to port it to another console like this. i think if SE did deliberately make the 360 version inferior that it was justly done. yea i have an odd view but idc, flame me if you like but to take the exclusiveness of the main ff series away was wrong. yea 11 was an exception for me seeing as i do not believe 11(or 14) to be true main ff games and should have no number attached to them.

ranting aside, i only got my ps3 maybe a few months ago and my choice for the ps3 was logical as i stated. i watched my friends blow the money on the not so cheap 360 consoles at the time just to see them turn around and having to waste a lot more money on repairs and 1 friend(guy who had half his house shorted out when his blew) at one point had his sent off on and off back to back for 6 months to a year. i was not about to do that and waste my money when i could have a working console. i may make enough money to where it would never be an issue but like i already said, i'd rather feel comfortable turning on my console and get what i expect than to turn it on and risk problems. also i know sony goofed recently but its a hell of a lot better than what microsoft has shown for quite some time. some of their games still have unfixed problems.

any questions feel free to ask me, but i wont go back on anything i just said, you can hate me for my views but i have my views from personal experiences.

[snickothemule]

wow SE really made a hash of the 360 video compression.

Eh, no matter.

[@ruantec]

My mate Hatorijr is indeed a die hard Final Fantasy fan and his arguments are totally correct in my eyes and that´s the type of critics that people should make and not just silly comparations from pages that do things intentionally.

a good example of this is this pic(nothing against you koko :p)
http://scrawlfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Digital-Foundry-FF13-Comparison_01.jpg

It is true that the 360 version is inferior but by any means the game looks that bad and i´ve showed that several times here with TRUE links and even pictures i made myself with my own cam... if people just bother to check my links and even my pics they will realize the game doesn´t look as that pic claims to be.

Just as Hatorijr am a die hard Final Fantasy fan and a Playstation fan too but in my case i just hate when sites start posting silly pics to make people believe something that isn´t true at all just to get some visitors... in fact i think that´s sick. because of that i´ve been called Fanboy here when in reality i just hate the fact that people use every single ***** just to put a wars between fans when in reality its totally different and i think i´ve showed that here :p

[Squall-Leonhart]

No offense but the differenced don't bother me that much. While I won't buy it at $59, I'll eventually buy the 360 version and it will be fine.

This isn't like a PS2 version vs a PS3 version.


yes.
it is.

[@ruantec]

yes.
it is.

LOL that was a good one m8 :p

[Cid Highwind]

Question: No offense, but most of you appear to be Playstation fanboys (and it's nothing new to NGEmu). Does it really matter that the PS3 just looks a "little" bit better? Who gives a f@#%? Everything else is just about the same, and seriously, what do you expect? oO
Agreed, it's only relevant when you have both consoles, otherwise you'll probably believe that you simply want to play the game and accept the graphics as they are.

I also am annoyed when I can't 60fps/8xAA/vSync my PC game, but as soon as I notice the game isn't that optimized, I'll accept it and play it with lowered settings.
New comparisons:

http://scrawlfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Digital-Foundry-FF13-Comparison_01.jpg
Digital Foundry face-off sees PS3 Final Fantasy XIII the champion — SCRAWL (http://scrawlfx.com/2010/03/digital-foundry-face-off-sees-ps3-final-fantasy-xiii-the-champion)

Video comparison
Face-Off: Final Fantasy XIII | DigitalFoundry (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-final-fantasy-xiii-face-off?page=1)

I'm sorry, but did they use more JPEG compression the left one, or are those artifacts from a composite image? The jaggies appear more clearly, but the biggest differences look like image compression. Or are these actually FMV comparisons? That'd be sad, PC can do that in realtime without breaking a sweat.

Anyway, no AA can change the fact that this game is a disappointment where it really matters: gameplay and exploration.

[Squall-Leonhart]

Nope, those are purely artifacts caused by the Bink video compressor.

[@ruantec]

mmmmmm i´ve been playing the game for more than 6 hours now and i haven´t seen any(strange and i really wonder why :p) i don´t want to sound like the big x360 defender but i would love to see those jaggies and stuff reviewers and sites keep writing/posting because as i´ve showed on my pics i can´t see any appart from the very small graphic differences which is obvious due to different resolutions.

The thing is i keep seeing flaws and critics about points of the game and when i turn on my x360 and watch it on my HD-TV all i see is quite the opposite... do you understand me??? if not then try :p

[Cid Highwind]

mmmmmm i´ve been playing the game for more than 6 hours now and i haven´t seen any(strange and i really wonder why :p) i don´t want to sound like the big x360 defender but i would love to see those jaggies and stuff reviewers and sites keep writing/posting because as i´ve showed on my pics i can´t see any appart from the very small graphic differences which is obvious due to different resolutions.

The thing is i keep seeing flaws and critics about points of the game and when i turn on my x360 and watch it on my HD-TV all i see is quite the opposite... do you understand me??? if not then try :p
Fact: Exposure to the Playstation 2 may result in immunity from jaggies. This vaccin should make you immune to them for at least 5 years, however the scientific foundation for that claim is still to be confirmed.

[@ruantec]

Fact: Exposure to the Playstation 2 may result in immunity from jaggies. This vaccin should make you immune to them for at least 5 years, however the scientific foundation for that claim is still to be confirmed.

hehehehe that was a good one m8 :p

UPDATE:
I just made few more pics.. where are those jaggies?

This are FACTS and how the game looks like on my HD-TV: :p
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3153/1000734w.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9639/1000733s.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6395/1000732.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2866/1000731ds.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4888/1000730.jpg

[Squall-Leonhart]

blurred by a bad upscaling filter.

[Lex_Light]

At least, the camera has good quality. xD

[redlofredlof]

Use the flower mode in the camera

[koko]

@ruantec, you won't see differences until you get the PS3 version and play it on FULL HDTV.
It's like playing PS3 games on SDTV.

I'm sorry, but did they use more JPEG compression the left one, or are those artifacts from a composite image? The jaggies appear more clearly, but the biggest differences look like image compression. Or are these actually FMV comparisons? That'd be sad, PC can do that in realtime without breaking a sweat.

Anyway, no AA can change the fact that this game is a disappointment where it really matters: gameplay and exploration.
Dunno. I'm not going to care, cause it's a confirmed infos :/

[@ruantec]

@ruantec, you won't see differences until you get the PS3 version and play it on FULL HDTV.
It's like playing PS3 games on SDTV.

You probably missed my post but i got the PS3 japanese version from a friend to test on my HD-TV and apart from some small differences the game looks pretty much the same... that´s why am keeping talking here because i can´t understand why so much negativiness and false claims in my eyes.

blurred by a bad upscaling filter.

maybe i should blame my cam for that :p but the shots still shows what i wanted to show.... the jaggies showed on those pics from reviewers and sites aren´t present and therefore am still waiting to see them and still no luck. there´s no upscaling filter either as am using the x360 with component cables connected directly to my HD-TV so no filters here.

[Xblade]

You probably missed my post but i got the PS3 japanese version to test from a friend and apart from some small differences the game looks pretty much the same... that´s why am keeping talking here because i can´t understand why so much negativiness and false claims in my eyes.



maybe i should blame my cam for that :p but the shots still shows what i wanted to show.... the jaggies showed on those pics from reviewers and sites aren´t present and therefore am still waiting to see them and still no luck. there´s no upscaling filter either as am using the x360 with component cables connected directly to my HD-TV so no filters here.

There are no false claims or negativeness on the 360 version, this is why your post can be viewed as fanboyism.

It's been stated numerous times that the ps3 version looks slightly better, that will become evident in side by side comparisons. There is no picture manipulation or deceit. People aren't so lifeless.

ows what i wanted to show.... the jaggies showed on those pics from reviewers and sites aren´t present and therefore am still waiting to see them and still no luck. there´s no upscaling filter either as am using the x360 with component cables connected directly to my HD-TV so no filters here.

The picture is way to blurry to ascertain jaggies, end story.

[@ruantec]

Well then call me fanboy if that makes you happy... fact is that the x360 is inferior and i never denied that but as my pics show those jaggies and stuff they show aren´t present and even if the quality of the image isn´t 100% its still visible that the image looks great.


last but not least its funny to see people believing blindly on what they read on the internet while am the only one here showing pics from the REAL game and also being the only one here that got his hands on both versions.... so if am not wrong am probably the only one able to see the true reality among the users here and i have no need to believe a stupid comment someone wrote on the internet. still am getting bashed for my opinions here from users that don´t even have the game nor have seen both version on a HD-TV... what a irony.

[Xblade]

Well then call me fanboy if that makes you happy... fact is that the x360 is inferior and i never denied that but as my pics show those jaggies and stuff they show aren´t present and even if the quality of the image isn´t 100% its still visible that the image looks great.


last but not least its funny to see people believing blindly on what they read on the internet while am the only one here showing pics from the REAL game and also being the only one here that got his hands on both versions.... so if am not wrong am probably the only one able to see the true reality among the users here and i have no need to believe a stupid comment someone wrote on the internet.

The stupid comment has been written by multiple people on the internet.

Its not just a one time thing, your tv is clearly unsuited for such comparison in the first place. You wouldn't be able to recognize subtle differences unless you had a side by side comparison, which you cannot provide.

Insinuating edited pics and false comparisons without ANY proof is just ridiculous. Then you must also come to the realization that the issue is so minor that there is no reason to pursue it anyway.

[koko]

You probably missed my post but i got the PS3 japanese version from a friend to test on my HD-TV and apart from some small differences the game looks pretty much the same... that´s why am keeping talking here because i can´t understand why so much negativiness and false claims in my eyes.
I remember you was saying you don't have a HDMI cable for your PS3.

You like saying the whole world are liars and you're the one :rolleyes:

[deamonhunter]

I remember you was saying you don't have a HDMI cable for your PS3.

You like saying the whole world are liars and you're the one :rolleyes:

Just to point things out koko , He has the component cable , which is able to output 1080p full Hd , HDMI has extra sound .



and BTW people , so one game now has better GFX on the PS3 than the xbox so the score is like 50 Xbox : 2 PS3 , so .....

[Noja87]

The game looks almost identical after watching that video comparison. And the 360 version runs overall smoother. I would go with better frame rates than better graphics (when the difference is not earth shattering...like now).

[@ruantec]

I remember you was saying you don't have a HDMI cable for your PS3.

You like saying the whole world are liars and you're the one :rolleyes:

LOL am not saying they are liars but am saying that i can´t see the flaws they pointed out.. about the HDMI cable... i wrote about the cable after i posted the comment about me testing the japanese version of the PS3. which happend a day after but may be due some other reasons :p

[Xblade]

The game looks almost identical after watching that video comparison. And the 360 version runs overall smoother. I would go with better frame rates than better graphics (when the difference is not earth shattering...like now).

It is very hard to see a difference between the 2 games with a flash player. Also if you look at it that way the frame differences can only be spotted when gauged. I'll be damned if you can notice a 2-4 frame difference from 30 while the 360 also drops by 2 frames.

[Noja87]

I wasnt basing my FPS comment in that video. But on this

"SE managed to screw up some on the PS3, too. The 360 is having a better time rendering close-up faces, but given the resolution reduction, it'd be a surprise if it didn't. The 360 version dropped to a low of 26FPS, while the PS3 had drops as far as 20FPS, which is much more noticeable and worse. On average, the 360 version is noticeably smoother... but minimal in gameplay situations." - Final Fantasy XIII Multiplat Saga: The Conclusion and Comparison on VGChartz.com (http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=7287)

=3

[Xblade]

Just to point things out koko , He has the component cable , which is able to output 1080p full Hd , HDMI has extra sound .



and BTW people , so one game now has better GFX on the PS3 than the xbox so the score is like 50 Xbox : 2 PS3 , so .....

Multi Platform games are shams for comparison as the console with the slightly better gpu will almost always win. What you should compare is exclusives where the systems other aspects come into play.

I wasnt basing my FPS comment in that video. But on this



=3

The 360s fps would not be as pretty if it were running at the same resolution as the ps3 version though. :p

Which makes me wonder why they don't have them both running at the same resolution......

[Noja87]

Yeah its pretty obvious. Lower res, faster frames. But i don't have an super awesome HD tv so that doesn't matter to me lol.

[Silenus]

It looks better on PS3 and has a 1% better framerate on Xbox360 by Digital Foundry.
Video on PS3 version is 1080p.
Res is 720p.

The video compression used on the xbox 360 is inferior.

Personally I would buy the PS3 version

[@ruantec]

People lets stop this somewhat silly battle... it pains me to discuss against people that like a console i like too but my comments here are based on my own judge and not on people on the net. while they may be respected people still there´s a possibility for them to write about something they probably don´t want because they get money or anything or just to cause a big battle between fans that at the end helps to increase profits.

regardless if you want to believe in what i´ve posted so far or not i actually don´t care but the undeniable facts are:

1. i´ve provided enough pictures and info here showing my arguments.
2. am the only one in this forum that got to test both versions while none of you can say or show the same.
3. am a Playstation lover but my opinions regarding the game are NEUTRAL and am just pointing out what i´ve seen so far.

Probably many of you may come with the arguement "Its not relevant" but what i´ve seen here its like saying that 15 important people says that the Ferrari logo has a RABBIT for whatever the reason it may be then you stand in front of a Ferrari and realize its a HOURSE and not a rabbit... would you still say its a RABBIT???

and that´s my point... before i got my hands on FF13 i really thought the x360 was terrible and to be honest i expected scenes full of pixels and jaggies but then i turned on my freaking x360 and inserted the freaking game an booooooooom all i saw was quite the opposite... and that´s the reason i´ve written my opinions here and have absolutely nothing to do with fanboysm as am not a x360 fan at all but a PS3 one(my pics show how many Playstation consoles i have and that´s the living proof lol)

now belive whatever you want but in my case i won´t believe on any comment people just post somewhere on the net... end of the story :p

[Xblade]

1. i´ve provided enough pictures and info here showing my arguments.

Your pictures are the most unreliable ones on the net.

2. am the only one in this forum that got to test both versions while none of you can say or show the same.

This is irrelevant.

3. am a Playstation lover but my opinions regarding the game are NEUTRAL and am just pointing out what i´ve seen so far.

Judging by your post regarding the ps3 and 360 it is an undeniable fact that you are not NEUTRAL, and you most certainly are not in favor of the ps3.

People lets stop this somewhat silly battle... it pains me to discuss against people that like a console i like too but my comments here are based on my own judge and not on people on the net. while they may be respected people still there´s a possibility for them to write about something they probably don´t want because they get money or anything or just to cause a big battle between fans that at the end helps to increase profits.


Contrary to popular paranoia, not every Dick, Jane, Harry and their dogs get paid off to keep their mouths shut about such trivial matters.

[@ruantec]

Your pictures are the most unreliable ones on the net.

probably... as they show the opposite of what a fanboy would like to see and they show something called REALITY and not blocky pics probably edited or maybe due poor hardware(TV). so in that case your comment would be valid.

This is irrelevant.

of course is irrelevant because none of you have seen the game with own eyes and still are blindly believing what you read on the net.

what a irony :p

anyways am going to leave this silly battle because there´s no way true can be told and regardless of what you do people willl still believe things blindly... so.......................

{me is doing like am believing comments on the net}

wooooooooooohoooo!! the PS3 version rocks and the x360 sucks!! YEAH!!!!

that´s what many of you wanted to hear so eat that and be happy :p

[Xblade]

probably... as they show the opposite of what a fanboy would like to see and they show something called REALITY and not blocky pics probably edited or maybe due poor hardware. so in that case your comment would be valid.
The reality is that your pics are blurry turds and you wouldn't be able to see the jaggies from a ps2 game if taken by the same means.



of course is irrelevant because none of you have seen the game with own eyes and still are blindly believing what you read on the net.

what a irony :p

This however does not make your opinion any more reliable, which is the real issue here.

[@ruantec]

The reality is that your pics are blurry turds and you wouldn't be able to see the jaggies from a ps2 game if taken by the same means.

of course you would because if i take a pic of a image full of jaggies they will be visible specially by the quality of my last pics.

This however does not make your opinion any more reliable, which is the real issue here.

so let me see if i get you right... the opinion of a PS3 fan after getting his hands in both versions isn´t relevant???? that the silliest comment i ever saw.

[Xblade]

wooooooooooohoooo!! the PS3 version rocks and the x360 sucks!! YEAH!!!!

that´s what many of you wanted to hear so eat that and be happy :p

Please grow up, and face the responses to your bs argument.

[@ruantec]

Please grow up, and face the responses to your bs argument.

oh really... thank you :p

[Xblade]

of course you would because if i take a pic of a image full of jaggies they will be visible specially by the quality of my last pics.


Perhaps you are completely blind and did not notice the extreme blur produced when you snaped a shot of your tv?

so let me see if i get you right... the opinion of a PS3 fan after getting his hands in both versions isn´t relevant???? that the silliest comment i ever saw.
No, your opinion is simply unreliable at this point.

don´t worry kid when you grow up you will understand :p

When I grow up? Listen here little man, my mentality is already far more mature than you could ever aspire to attain.

[@ruantec]

do you have the game???? have you seen the game??? have you played the game????

mmmm...... blurred pics are the result of my oldy cam no more no less.

[Xblade]

do you have the game???? have you seen the game??? have you played the game????

mmmm...... blurred pics are the result of my oldy cam no more no less.

Which obviously means that they are unreliable.

[@ruantec]

Which obviously means that they are unreliable.

of course they are because as your post already proof you haven´t seen the game, played the game nor own the game... end of the story :p

am not calling you a fanboy even if you already called me that way but only a fanboy would blindly believe what he see on the internet... am also not forcing people to believe what i´ve posted but to judge according them.. that´s it! end of the story again :p

[Irukapooka]

Seems like someone is trolling for trouble. :rolleyes:

[Xblade]

of course they are because as your post already proof you haven´t seen the game, played the game nor own the game... end of the story :p

am not calling you a fanboy even if you already called me that way but only a fanboy would blindly believe what he see on the internet... am also not forcing people to believe what i´ve posted but to judge according them.. that´s it! end of the story again :p

You are completely hopeless.

[@ruantec]

You are completely hopeless.

so you are...

anyways lets move on and lets end this silly arguments battle... you people believe whatever you want and be happy.

Seems like someone is trolling for trouble. :rolleyes:

Don´t worry hun... Xblade and i have always different opinions regardless what the topic maybe but its nothing serious... at least not on my side.

[bleh bleh bleh]

just unleash you bankai and be done with it :p

[Hy-Def]

Can I ask something? (Does not wait for answer) Thanks. Why is it called FINAL Fantasy when there are 13 FINAL Fantasies. Like isn't it supposed to be FINAL? It doesn't seem FINAL. It's 13 from FINAL. When is it actually gonna be FINAL?

[bleh bleh bleh]

simple, it's final FANTASY, not final GAME.

[@ruantec]

Hehehehe nice one :)

[Xblade]

Ok so whats the point of giving a game 9s a 10 and 2 8s in a individual scoring and still giving it an overall 8?

Not an average indeed, the average would of been a 9.0

http://forums.ngemu.com/attachments/game-console-discussion/209232d1267900546-final-fantas-13-360-really-does-look-worse-then-ps3-not-average-indeed.jpg

Much more sensible as the game play scored low.
http://forums.ngemu.com/attachments/game-console-discussion/209233d1267900546-final-fantas-13-360-really-does-look-worse-then-ps3-more-sensible.jpg

Also from the ign site :3.
As a quick note for owners of multiple platforms, I strongly recommend getting this game on the PS3. The 360 version seems to run well enough, but it's noticeably less sharp and is spread across three discs.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/107/1074979p1.html

[LensLarque]

Can I ask something? (Does not wait for answer) Thanks. Why is it called FINAL Fantasy when there are 13 FINAL Fantasies. Like isn't it supposed to be FINAL? It doesn't seem FINAL. It's 13 from FINAL. When is it actually gonna be FINAL?
It's because the first FF was meant to be the last game of the company before going bankrupt.
So they called it their 'Final Fantasy'... but the game unexpectedly was a success and the poor guys wouldn't have to starve to death.

They kept the title in memory of that story I guess.

Back on topic: who cares on what platform FF XIII looks the best ?
It's not a masterpiece, we already know that, so why is it so important to know if X or Y version have 3 more pixels and 2 more frames of animation ?

Is it because FF XIII only has the looks and people want every last bit of it for their money ?

FF games are not a tax we're forced to pay, there are many other games around...

[Squall-Leonhart]

retards that can't average, thats what.

[Xblade]

Can I ask something? (Does not wait for answer) Thanks. Why is it called FINAL Fantasy when there are 13 FINAL Fantasies. Like isn't it supposed to be FINAL? It doesn't seem FINAL. It's 13 from FINAL. When is it actually gonna be FINAL?

It is called Final Fantasy because the company was going bankrupt and the first in the series would of been there last game, Final Fantasy.

Fortunately for them the game sold like hotcakes.

[makotech222]

It's because the first FF was meant to be the last game of the company before going bankrupt.
So they called it their 'Final Fantasy'... but the game unexpectedly was a success and the poor guys wouldn't have to starve to death.

They kept the title in memory of that story I guess.

Back on topic: who cares on what platform FF XIII looks the best ?
It's not a masterpiece, we already know that, so why is it so important to know if X or Y version have 3 more pixels and 2 more frames of animation ?

Is it because FF XIII only has the looks and people want every last bit of it for their money ?

FF games are not a tax we're forced to pay, there are many other games around...

Its because a lot of people are STUPID and will argue, whine, and complain about every stupid little thing. This whole thread is ****. thanks squall

[Xblade]

It's because the first FF was meant to be the last game of the company before going bankrupt.
So they called it their 'Final Fantasy'... but the game unexpectedly was a success and the poor guys wouldn't have to starve to death.

They kept the title in memory of that story I guess.



Beat me to it QQ.

[LensLarque]

There will be tons of cheaper used copies on sale a few weeks after the release, I'd recommend to go for that for anybody who's afraid to be disapointed by the game.

(I always do that and save quite a bit of money :p)

[Squall-Leonhart]

Its because a lot of people are STUPID and will argue, whine, and complain about every stupid little thing. This whole thread is ****. thanks squall


http://www.george-bush-pics.com/uploaded_images/george-bush-picture-47-739467.jpg

[Noja87]

Ign gave FF12 a 9.5...

[koko]

I don't know about FF story, but they should really put an end of it. Like what Kojima did with MGS4.

[@ruantec]

I don't know about FF story, but they should really put an end of it. Like what Kojima did with MGS4.

i doubt Kojima is going to end the MGS series with MGS4... as far as i know he got inspired by MW2 so i think its safe to say that we can expect another MGS mate :thumb:

.... only the time will tell i think.

[Noja87]

I don't know about FF story, but they should really put an end of it. Like what Kojima did with MGS4.

Pffft yeah right. "MGS2 is going to be the last one!" and we all how that end up :rolleyes:

[koko]

Back on topic: who cares on what platform FF XIII looks the best ?
It's not a masterpiece, we already know that, so why is it so important to know if X or Y version have 3 more pixels and 2 more frames of animation ?
If you don't care, that's your problem. People care and buy the PS3 version BECAUSE it's better.
Differences between 576p and 720p isn't just a small thing. I'm not surprised that this came from someone have said this (http://forums.ngemu.com/1814936-post1747.html).

i doubt Kojima is going to end the MGS series with MGS4... as far as i know he got inspired by MW2 so i think its safe to say that we can expect another MGS mate :thumb:

.... only the time will tell i think.
Hey, I don't mind any new MGS game, as long as they are still full of creative story and gameplay. Every MGS game now have succeed, not like FF games :rolleyes: :p
Pffft yeah right. "MGS2 is going to be the last one!" and we all how that end up :rolleyes:
MGS3 is not the following story of Solid Snake :p

[LensLarque]

My point was: 'why are little differences so important for a game that isn't that great to begin', nothing else.
(but if people are ok with spending the most money for it, yeah right, that's not my problem)

PS: and about my post on LCDs & CRTs, I understand you didn't get what I was talking about.
Meh... think what you want.

[Spyhop]

I don't understand this argument. We know the PS3 version is better. We know it won't matter to some people. (Though if someone owns both consoles and gets the 360 version then they need a beating.)

So....why are we arguing?

[Squall-Leonhart]

we're trying to summon gods of war such as hushypushy and Shiori.

[bleh bleh bleh]

I don't know about FF story, but they should really put an end of it. Like what Kojima did with MGS4.

i heard MGS:peace walker is MGS5.

So....why are we arguing?

we're not, they are.

[Ragnarok10]

I had to pre order FF13 for my PS3 cause of my 360 committing suicide...again.I have to say though,these next 3 days are gonna seem like 3 weeks.And after thinking about FF13 being so close,it made me start thinking about God Of War 3 coming out a week later.

*sigh*

[Noja87]

Should have go with God of War 3. Honestly. You can still switch pre orders you know.

[Ragnarok10]

Yea i could,and if I do that I'll be sleeping with my dog outside since the game is fully paid for and my gf has the most invested in it lol.

[Noja87]

ooohhh well that changes everything :lol:

[koko]

My point was: 'why are little differences so important for a game that isn't that great to begin', nothing else.
(but if people are ok with spending the most money for it, yeah right, that's
If you don't care about the game itself, that's your problem, too.
I don't understand this argument. We know the PS3 version is better. We know it won't matter to some people. (Though if someone owns both consoles and gets the 360 version then they need a beating.)

So....why are we arguing?
some guys here won't believe that the PS3 verison is better!!!!
i heard MGS:peace walker is MGS5.
The story will take place following the events of Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater and Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, which were both prequels to the original Metal Gear, and will once again star Naked Snake.

[Xblade]

Should have go with God of War 3. Honestly. You can still switch pre orders you know.

Sites that played the God of War demo admitted that Bayonetta's combat was superior. Now all of god of war has going for it is graphics and storyline.

Lol storyline.

[Noja87]

Wasnt the complete version of the game suppose to be worlds superior than the demo? Between IGN gave God of War a 10 and Game Informer another 10 :O

[Xblade]

Wasnt the complete version of the game suppose to be worlds superior than the demo? Between IGN gave God of War a 10 and Game Informer another 10 :O

That was the first game, when the hack n slash concept was still new.

When other games do the same better, people are much less forgiving.
I personally declined to play past the first 2 levels of God of War 1, because I had already played Devil May Cry 4.

[Cid Highwind]

That was the first game, when the hack n slash concept was still new.

When other games do the same better, people are much less forgiving.
I personally declined to play past the first 2 levels of God of War 1, because I had already played Devil May Cry 4.

lol, hack and slash being new? I've seen these games on every single console since Nes. I could hardly call the game unique or original. It's simply of exceptional quality in terms of production value, which is what sets it aside from all previous games in the genre.

[Paratech]

I "get" that the PS3 version is better, but it doesn't matter to me, and if I buy a RPG, it is rarely about the graphics, but the gameplay that interests me. Remember, Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana are my 2 favorite RPGs, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

I can't believe this many pages have been dedicated to fanboyism, how about buy the game if you like it and enjoy it, whats to get even if you win a pissing contest on which version is best?

There were games for the PS2, GC, and XBOX where the XBOX version was better but I purchased either the GC or PS2 version. It may not have been as pretty but it was still fun. In fact I purchased a GC and PS2 before I purchased an XBOX!

[P_RePTiLe]

The game looks almost identical after watching that video comparison. And the 360 version runs overall smoother. I would go with better frame rates than better graphics (when the difference is not earth shattering...like now).

If the PS3 version has larger res (720p ingame, 1080p in movies) than XBOX360 (SDTV and 720p in movies), then a side-by-side video where both sides are scaled down to the same res (which was lower than 720p in that case) - is unfair and not sensible for precise comparison.

If you are talking about the clip where they said something about that "this is how good the fmv's still are when compressed in xbox360 - that are this and that many GB's on PS3 is ). There is quite a space, bandwith and quality difference between movie or texture data in 1080p (around 1920x1080) and in 720p (around 1280x720)

Just a fact :)

[Hard core Rikki]

Its not the practical technical differences between the consoles that were discussed, but the poor effort at porting. Gameplay-wise, the game is the exact same on both platform, so not enjoying it whichever 'version' you get would be laughable.

Resolution and antialiasing do not matter here as practical limits cannot be overcome anyway. Noone likes choppy games. Sega got flamed to no end for its mediocre job at porting the excellent Bayonetta, making it look washed up and run far poorer than on xbox360.

Regarding FF XIII:
- FMVs couldve been compressed much more efficiently (or 'free up space' while keeping the same quality). The conversion effort was lousy.
- An xbox360-specific optimized texture format couldve been used instead of a generic dxt one (see around the blacks, its there that significantly decreased detail will look the most noticeable). Porting was sloppy here.
- Depth of view was still reduced despite all that, and lighting is poorer. Nothing really inconveniencing or noticeable, but it would take a blind man to not see it in a compareason.



For their multiplatform effort, while Square did not disappoint, it sure couldve done better. The effort is to commend, as its not as bad as it was believed it couldve gone. They could still drop the PR doubletalk/lying, like the clearly doctored screenshots trying to keep hype going strong for an FF opus that needed it after how it got shot down in Japan before international availability, and how they kept swearing both versions will look exactly the same when it was obvious it wouldnt be the case.

Next time they make RPGs: more towns, less tunnels, no more '30-hours long tutorials', else drop off player interaction altogether and just release their next game into cinemas altogether (since they seem to give far more emphasis on that than actual gaming experience).

Blame SEGA and its lousy porting job for reminding that console juice does not mean anything, in the face of compromise that keeps quality releases as the main aim.

[koko]

(SDTV and 720p in movies)
I think the 360 version doesn't support HD res at all. so the cut-scenes run in 576p too.

[Spyhop]

some guys here won't believe that the PS3 verison is better!!!!

Yes, we know these people as 360 owners.

[PsyMan]

some guys here believe that the PS3 verison is better!!!!

fixed!^

And yeah, we know those people as PS3 owners.

[Spyhop]

It's a game developed for the PS3 and ported to the 360. Anyone who thinks a few sacrifices weren't made and some corners cut are in huge denial. These are also the same people who will point out the technical drawbacks of games ported to the PS3.

The portER will almost always be better than the portEE. Just the way it works.

[koko]

Yes, we know these people as 360 owners.
Here we go. lol.
fixed!^

And yeah, we know those people as PS3 owners.
I need to know your current location, pwease. I have some spare terrorists to send :rolleyes:

[Spyhop]

I need to know your current location, pwease. I have some spare terrorists to send :rolleyes:

We know you're joking....but posting on a public forum from Saudi Arabia and saying you're going to send terrorists is probably gonna get you some attention. :lol:

[Paratech]

As long as everyone gets 72 virgins of their choice, its all good right?

[PsyMan]

As long as everyone gets 72 virgins of their choice, its all good right?

Have fun handling 72 male virgins then :lol:

[koko]

We know you're joking....but posting on a public forum from Saudi Arabia and saying you're going to send terrorists is probably gonna get you some attention. :lol:
:lol:
As long as everyone gets 72 virgins of their choice, its all good right?
It's you again...

I'll just leave this (http://forums.ngemu.com/open-discussion/132667-me-do-americans-impatience-go-hand-hand-2.html#post1814435) here
It was too hilarious reply.
Have fun handling 72 male virgins then :lol:
:rolleyes:

[Paratech]

I said 72 virgins of their choice, not your choice! :p

[PsyMan]

I said 72 virgins of their choice, not your choice! :p

No wait, you edited that sentence when I wasn't looking! No fair :p

[koko]

I said 72 virgins of their choice, not your choice! :p
oh sorry then :p...

[Squall-Leonhart]

oh sorry then :p...


why has this suddenly degraded into religious dumb******ry.

[LensLarque]

Blame those SquareEnix pagans. :D

[DinJerr]

PS3 - One BD disc
X360 - Three DVDs
PC - One hundred rar files.

----------

PC version will win. ;)

[Lex_Light]

PS3 - One BD disc
X360 - Three DVDs
PC - One hundred rar files.

----------

PC version will win. ;)

Yes, the PC version will win with the Package. xD

[Paratech]

why has this suddenly degraded into religious dumb******ry.

Take Your Pick

Pissing contest between 360 and PS3 fanboys

Blind Squaresoft Worship

Are either of those better?

:evil:

I thought we were mocking terrorists anyways not discussing real religion. :innocent:

[Dynamo]

I thought we were mocking terrorists anyways not discussing real religion. :innocent:

Technically your mocking Muslims.

I personally declined to play past the first 2 levels of God of War 1, because I had already played Devil May Cry 4.

The only thing that bugged me was having to kill types of enemies in the exact same way. Had a scripted kill method.

[Paratech]

Do you really think all Muslims believe that ? oO

[Dynamo]

Do you really think all Muslims believe that ? oO
Short answer, no. Long answer... not on an emulation site in a thread about ffxiii...

[Xblade]

I'd like to point at that two pages of spam made by people *****ing about fanboy rants is worse than actual fanboy rants.

k now stfu and gtfo the thread, you are gonna get it closed.

[@ruantec]

Guys calm down.. this thread was meant to show some points and i think each one has shown his own opinion which is great but i think we should keep calmed.

Facts:

Fact 1: The PS3 version is Superior.
Fact 2: The 360 version is inferior but not by much and no it doesn't look like a PS1/PS2 game.

so lets bring some news here and not battle please... remember every time you create a battle God kills a beautiful/hot virgin.


the last part is meant to be a nice joke to laugh about... so just chill

[Xblade]

PC version will win. ;)

On the contrary, non-existent things always lose.

[snickothemule]

I believe it was a joke xblade.

[Noja87]

*facepalm*

[Dynamo]

so lets bring some news here and not battle please... remember every time you create a battle God kills a beautiful/hot virgin.


the last part is meant to be a nice joke to laugh about... so just chill


I wasn't offended by it.. This thread has been off topic for about 5 pages, thought I'd keep it going. :p




Final Fantasy 13 (360) really does look worse then ps3.


Facts:

Fact 1: The PS3 version is Superior.
Fact 2: The 360 version is inferior but not by much and no it doesn't look like a PS1/PS2 game.

That about sums it up.. Not much else to say. :lol:

[Xblade]

I believe it was a joke xblade.

You can never be to sure about sarcasm coming from the grammatically inept.
:evil:

[PsyMan]

You can never be to sure about sarcasm coming from the grammatically inept.
:evil:

In that case, the next time you attempt to be sarcastic, let us know. :lol:

[Xblade]

In that case, the next time you attempt to be sarcastic, let us know. :lol:

Har har, you are so funny.

[PsyMan]

Har har, you are so funny.

Thanks :D

:evil:

[koko]

360/PS3 Comparison
Final Fantasy XIII Video Game, 360/PS3 Comparison | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/360-ps3-comparison-final-fantasy/62808)


A9JTEuNAmLw
IGN gave it 8.9

[Irukapooka]

Looks absolutely stunning. So gorgeous to my eyes. It seems like my type of game even though I'm not a huge fan of the Final Fantasy series. I'll wait till this goes down on price though which may take a year or more but I'm a patient person. Besides, there's other games I have yet to play that I have already bought for my precious PS3. :3

[Strike105X]

360/PS3 Comparison
Final Fantasy XIII Video Game, 360/PS3 Comparison | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/360-ps3-comparison-final-fantasy/62808)


A9JTEuNAmLw
IGN gave it 8.9

Between the PS3 and the Xbox360 i think the best quality would be had on the PC :rotflmao:

[Irukapooka]

*stares up at strike in amazement and awe*

[verboten999]

Must... resist... the urge... of buying PS3

[@ruantec]

Between the PS3 and the Xbox360 i think the best quality would be had on the PC :rotflmao:

Indeed!!! that video shows how small the differences are and also shows that the 360 version of the game doesn´t look like a PS1 game just as many sites made it look :p

[Irukapooka]

People are just most likely finding excuses to bash the 360 again.

[PsyMan]

Playstation 3 fanboys are just most likely finding excuses to bash the 360 again.

Fixed! :thumb:

[verboten999]

People are just most likely finding excuses to bash the 360 again.

I don't see the point though. The difference is not that much.

[Squall-Leonhart]

Bluray is superior.

nuff said.

[raksmey1309]

Blueray is pirate proof and more dollar.x360 should use it.i smell pc ff13 on blueray

[Irukapooka]

Fixed! :thumb::p Hey I'm a PS3 fangirl. Does that mean I'm exempt? :innocent:

I don't see the point though. The difference is not that much.A lot of people are just upset that the game isn't just released one console but on two, making the people that own the other console upset. I know people that have only bought their PS3 awhile back so they could have it by the time FF13 came out. But since it's released on 360 and PS3...can you see why the people who only bought their PS3 for FF13 and already owned a 360 get mad about this? hehe. This is what I've seen from a couple friends though. I don't know about the majority's view on this.

Bluray is superior.

nuff said.
Danny get me some nutella. :(

[LensLarque]

The review sounds honest and confirms most of what have been said already.
Looking gorgeous (we already knew) but definitely not my type of game.:p

[Squall-Leonhart]

Danny get me some nutella. :(

No.

[verboten999]

A lot of people are just upset that the game isn't just released one console but on two, making the people that own the other console upset. I know people that have only bought their PS3 awhile back so they could have it by the time FF13 came out. But since it's released on 360 and PS3...can you see why the people who only bought their PS3 for FF13 and already owned a 360 get mad about this? hehe. This is what I've seen from a couple friends though. I don't know about the majority's view on this.

That's why it's pointless. I don't see why all the rage just because some game isn't exclusive to just one console, or vehemently bashing other consoles. And I don't see what's so satisfying from mocking other consoles' capabilities. It's just a game and gaming consoles, why is some people so adamant in identifying themselves to their games? I just don't get it.

[@ruantec]

That's why it's pointless. I don't see why all the rage just because some game isn't exclusive to just one console, or vehemently bashing other consoles. And I don't see what's so satisfying from mocking other consoles' capabilities. It's just a game and gaming consoles, why is some people so adamant in identifying themselves to their games? I just don't get it.

Well said :thumb:

[Irukapooka]

No.
Meanie. :(
That's why it's pointless. I don't see why all the rage just because some game isn't exclusive to just one console, or vehemently bashing other consoles. And I don't see what's so satisfying from mocking other consoles' capabilities. It's just a game and gaming consoles, why is some people so adamant in identifying themselves to their games? I just don't get it.

Some people are crying cause they spent 600usd on a console that they bought just for the game, and then find out that they didn't even need to blow that 600 bucks because they already had a 360 and could have gotten FF13 for just that and not have wasted all the money.

Meh, I have no idea. Some people are just like that. I personally like all consoles of this generation. All of them have flaws though:

Wii: Seems too childish to me. There has only been a few games that have been up my alley. Also, with being sick, I can't play much of the more physical games where you have to really move the controllers all around cause it takes too much out of me.

360: A good system and has a good selection of games. I was considering getting my own 360 but instead bought my PS3 because I figured I could just kick my brother's off the family's 360 one of these days. The only off putting factor is that 360s get the RRoD all the time. My best friend has had 5 360s do that to him so far.

PS3: This actually has the best variety of games to my liking than all of the other consoles of this generation. The graphics are beautiful and I love the Phat PS3s sleek design. The only problem that I have had so far is that games can be sold for 65usd. But, in solution to that, I have been buying games that have come out a couple years ago and that are used so I can get them for around 20usd. :)

[@ruantec]

The thing is we´ve been discussing and battling here for no reasons and that´s sad.. the PS3 version is slightly supperior but still we(PS3) lovers have to admit that isn´t much supperior than the 360 version in many areas.

since my pics were labeled as not relevant lets check out what the following PS3 vs 360 comparation has to say... taking in mind is comming from a respectable place such as GT.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4310/44404024.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3687/10365434.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8725/74256656.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9742/48378118.jpg
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/2964/46942897.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/613/55527996.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5309/78681140.jpg

as you can see in the pics it looks like the 360 version is less pixelized in few areas... but since i now own both versions i know its not quite true but the meaning of this post is to show how small differences are and how someone could make a console look bad even without doing nothing but taking screenshots. the main problem isn´t that 360 fans didn´t accepted that is slightly inferior but the fact that many people here and even websites made it sound as if the game looks like a PS1 game on the 360.

one of the main argument sites wrote about the 360 downside was the "Blocky fingers in the 360!!!" PS3 fans around the world started to laugh at 360 on how there version was so inferior that the characters actually have blocky fingers... now lets check out this pic and judge.
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6023/38394329.jpg

this post isn´t mean to start any silly argument war again so don´t bother to quote it...

.......... now judge yourself.

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

I hope FF13 either sells well or badly enough (whichever works for Squeenix) that it can eventually come to PC as well, I don't care if I have to swap out 12 discs and it takes up 50GB of HDD and I have to get some more RAM, I want it on PC XD

[P_RePTiLe]

Those clips are downscaled and not running original-res on any of the two systems :)
Thus Downscaling-effects happens and is not a sensible comparison.

I have neither system, and are trying to be unbiased but reasonable.

[@ruantec]

Those clips are downscaled and not running original-res on any of the two systems :)
Thus Downscaling-effects happens and is not a sensible comparison.

I have neither system, and are trying to be unbiased but reasonable.

That´s definitely a valid argument and i should agree with you and exactly that´s the point of my post... you can make a version look like its terrible even if its not the case and since i got my hands on both versions i saw it with my own eyes and not from pics i just saw on the internet.

battles among fans is the result of a well-made strategy because at the end companies tend to make profit out of it as lots of people around the world end bying both versions... a good example for that its me... even if i had the option to get the game "FREE" i ended buying both versions just to compare them. at the end i spend over 120€ on both versions and the only one laughing its Square-Enix(they deserve the money tho).

still there´s one last point you forgot mate :D as already mentioned lots of times here the PS3 version is superior... a better image when downscaled will always look better than a image that was already bad. what i want to tell with that is that on the pics i posted both versions were downscaled and there´s no reason for the 360 to look better :p

anyways i will definitely enjoy this game.

[Silenus]

I hope FF13 either sells well or badly enough (whichever works for Squeenix) that it can eventually come to PC as well, I don't care if I have to swap out 12 discs and it takes up 50GB of HDD and I have to get some more RAM, I want it on PC XD

Amen my brother.

[Geralt Of Rivia]

Maybe 5 years from now, on a PS3 emulator. It'd be awesome a pc version but I strongly doubt they will ever release it.

[Squall-Leonhart]

Those clips are downscaled and not running original-res on any of the two systems :)
Thus Downscaling-effects happens and is not a sensible comparison.

I have neither system, and are trying to be unbiased but reasonable.


Downscaling doesn't introduce graphical artifacts.

[P_RePTiLe]

Downscaling doesn't introduce graphical artifacts.

"downscaling", can be done in numerous of ways, and there is no telling how the creators of clips and comparisons has gone about doing so.
Downscaling is very unpredictable as it depends on whatever method one uses for downscaling or converting the material, filters, algorithms and so forth. :)

[Lex_Light]

Well, if downscaling is very unpredictable, then upscaling is very predictable, no? xD

[Dynamo]

I hope FF13 either sells well or badly enough (whichever works for Squeenix) that it can eventually come to PC as well, I don't care if I have to swap out 12 discs and it takes up 50GB of HDD and I have to get some more RAM, I want it on PC XD

Not bad so far. Final Fantasy XIII Sells 450,000 Units in the Americas on Day One (http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=7369)

Preliminary day one sales are in for Final Fantasy XIII, and with around 290,000 units sold on PS3 and 160,000 units sold on Xbox360 it looks like the title is a success. With recent reports of 5 million units shipped worldwide, that likely breaks down to two million in Japan and around 1.5 million in each of the Americas and Other Regions (Europe, Asia, Africa, Middle East, Australia).

A day one figure of 450,000 should increase by around 40-50% by the end of the week meaning that around 45% of the initial shipment would have sold through in week one, with the rest of the shipment likely to last through to the end of April. The game launches in other regions on Friday and VGChartz expects a similar figure of around 500,000 units to be sold in the first couple of days with the PS3 version leading by at least 2:1.

[Lex_Light]

That's logic, because any game of Final Fantasy = Best-Seller. xD

[Geralt Of Rivia]

I can't wait to play it, the graphics looks so damn awesome. I wanna combo.

[@ruantec]

Final Fantasy XIII has been the source of much sniping between Sony and Microsoft fanboys, long before the English language release. Those in the Sony camp may have recently thought that they had ‘won’, now that it is generally accepted that the Xbox 360 version is inferior on a technical level. This includes the fact that the PS3 version runs at a higher resolution; but this seems to have turned out to be a poisoned chalice.

There have been numerous complaints – including on the official US PlayStation forum (http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/Final-Fantasy-Series/Final-fantasy-13-screen-tearing/m-p/45358802/highlight/true;jsessionid=923B757EA5A0F70C40C16DCEB429BB1B)– of major screen tearing on the PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIII. This only happens when playing the game in standard definition (ie. Via a Scart lead or SD composite), but there is every reason to believe that this happens on every TV – HDTV or SDTV – and that the screen tearing occurs at completely unacceptable levels.

We have tested the issue ourselves, and found that it is indeed present when playing the game in standard definition on both HDTVs and SDTVs. For now, we are only able to confirm that the issue is present on the PS3 version.


At time of writing, Sony and Square Enix have declined to comment on the issue.


http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5817/voorbeeldw.jpg

I wonder if someone here is having the issue while playing the PS3 version.

Source (http://www.criticalgamer.co.uk/2010/03/11/final-fantasy-xiii-massive-screen-tearing-for-ps3-sdtv-gamers/)

[Spyhop]

I don't play in SD, so no.
Dunno how much longer SD users should expect support.

[@ruantec]

I don't play in SD, so no.
Dunno how much longer SD users should expect support.

i haven´t seen it myself here either but was wondering if someone here is affected by it as it seems to be confirmed.

[Xblade]

That glitch should be easily fixable by a patch since it only shows up in SD resolutions.

[Spyhop]

I am REALLY digging the new battle system. It's such a breath of fresh air in a series that had gone so stale. It actually makes you think, quickly, and it's often unforgiving if you do something stupid. It doesn't lend itself to the bored attack button mashing of it's predecessors.

[Irukapooka]

Is there any possibility of finding a copy of FF13 for the PS3 that doesn't cost 65 USD? Lol.

[Hard core Rikki]

Japan has FF XIII in the bargain bin already, thanks to the unanimous appreciation of 'tunnels' there.

[P_RePTiLe]

Is there any possibility of finding a copy of FF13 for the PS3 that doesn't cost 65 USD? Lol.

You could wait for some people (who are less ff-fans than some) to play it trough quickly and then "pawns" it.
Or do the good ol' "manual time-travel": i.e, waiting a few months :)

[Kaizen]

Is there any possibility of finding a copy of FF13 for the PS3 that doesn't cost 65 USD? Lol.

Yes, just be creative.

[Hiei-YYH]

Is there any possibility of finding a copy of FF13 for the PS3 that doesn't cost 65 USD? Lol.

you can buy the asia version (english language) for like 50 usd.

[Strike105X]

Rob the store with a Wiimote and its free :).

[Irukapooka]

Japan has FF XIII in the bargain bin already, thanks to the unanimous appreciation of 'tunnels' there.
I thought that FF13 was released about 6 months ago in Japan. I'm surprised that it's in the bargain bin already if that was true. I thought we would have to wait about 2-3 years before that would happen.
You could wait for some people (who are less ff-fans than some) to play it trough quickly and then "pawns" it.
Or do the good ol' "manual time-travel": i.e, waiting a few months :)
Lol yeah my time machine is broken at the moment. :lol:

I'll wait 6 months anyway. :3 Then I'll see. I could easily get more PS3 games for less than 20usd to fill up my time.
Yes, just be creative.

:rolleyes:

Rob the store with a Wiimote and its free :).
Lol that's so bad. :lol: Hilarious though! :p

[Hard core Rikki]

I thought that FF13 was released about 6 months ago in Japan.
Square decreased its prices to keep the thing sell, but the prices mentioned were for the used market (about 20-25$). Of course, I take it wouldnt be in english. I'll dig for a link.

[Exodus]

Is there any possibility of finding a copy of FF13 for the PS3 that doesn't cost 65 USD? Lol.

$50 on half.com.

[Irukapooka]

That would be my best bet. Thank you Exodus. :3

[Exodus]

No probs. As long as you don't have anything against getting non-sealed stuff, half.com is a keeper.

[raksmey1309]

I will wait for the price to go down to 50bucks for x360

[Irukapooka]

No probs. As long as you don't have anything against getting non-sealed stuff, half.com is a keeper.

Non sealed? Meaning that the game isn't sealed in plastic? Or no case?

[Paratech]

I don't see the need to buy this game until it drops a bit, but I'm not in the group that has to beat every Final Fantasy game right when they are released! ;)

I also buy used games from reputable businesses, like gamestop. :)

[Spyhop]

You don't buy any game new.