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E-double
February 4th, 2002, 08:24
Post your worst rpg of all time for me its this butcher to the Glorious name

Samor
February 4th, 2002, 08:30
what a beatiful, clear picture O.O

Rubicant
February 4th, 2002, 09:53
But he is kinda right, at least its Squares worst game.

Not the worst ever made though....

Ninjaa
February 4th, 2002, 10:25
Square's worst game? I think not. But I think that it probably is their worst RPG.

Ryos
February 4th, 2002, 15:58
Depends on the aspects I'm currently annoyed at the most, but Quest 64 or The Legend of Dragoon.

Zell
February 4th, 2002, 18:57
Quest 64 comes close but , there are worse

Jonys
February 4th, 2002, 19:05
i agree mystic quest sucks BIG TIME....

fujita
February 4th, 2002, 20:41
Hello everyone.
If it is the worst RPG you want, then I shall say Shadow Madness. It is the worst RPG in my opinion.

Kellicros
February 4th, 2002, 22:33
mystic quest sucks... and it's the worst RPG....

Exodus
February 4th, 2002, 23:07
the worst one i played was probably Soleil on genesis

japoniano
February 5th, 2002, 05:04
R u kidding?!

MQ is good!

Quest64 is bad!

carnage179
February 5th, 2002, 06:05
I like MQ. It was the first RPG I played, so that probely why. I guess it's good for beginners to play.

Esturk
February 5th, 2002, 06:09
Beginner? The first RPG I played was Final Fantasy I, and I loved it right away! And yes I do like Mystic Quest. Quest 64 is truly a horrible game.

ToM_E
February 5th, 2002, 06:18
Originally posted by E-double
Post your worst rpg of all time for me its this butcher to the Glorious name

Hrm....That sure looks like Legend of Zelda on Gameboy. The picture looks similar and Quest64 does not suck. :P I say there is no such worst rpg game.

Carmofin
February 5th, 2002, 10:21
yes there is, and its called Quest64 ;)
hey, i bought it and played it through, i know what im talking about!

sxamiga
February 5th, 2002, 20:05
Glad to see that there are others who like Mystic Quest, besides myself.. Granted, it is not up to FF VII or FF IX's standards, but its a nice little game for someone who wants to get their "feet wet" in RPGS. The worst RPG(s) ever, for me it would have to be Vagrant Story and FF VIII. Ughh!!!!!, just thinking about those two makes me want to :spy: Now, I realise that this is only my opinion, but it truly is how I feel about these two games.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Exodus
February 5th, 2002, 20:15
i didn't find anything wrong with FF: Mystic Quest. i did however have a problem with FF3 (jap) with the main characters being quadruplet brothers. i also didnt like how FF1 had the thing where the character wouldn't attack a different monster even if the one they were originally assigned to attack had died. that was pretty dumb. but as for newer games (PSX and later), i haven't played one that has offended me greatly.

Phacia
February 6th, 2002, 17:21
Originally posted by sxamiga
The worst RPG(s) ever, for me it would have to be Vagrant Story and FF VIII. Ughh!!!!!, just thinking about those two makes me want to :spy: Now, I realise that this is only my opinion, but it truly is how I feel about these two games.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Aww man, you've treated on territory that few people live to tell about... I take that personally... Just for that... I'm going to put quotes from these games here!!! :D

"Try to catch me Ashley Riot!"
"You haven't got any truth in yourself!" ~ Sydney Losstarot

"We're all SeeD's here. We'll act accordingly"
"Whatever" ~ Squall Leonhart

So there! :D

Anyway, I like Mystic Quest. I thought it was cool. FF4 through FF8 were all excellent games. I wasn't much into FF9 because I just couldn't get into the characters, or the storyline...

*!!!SPOILERS FOR FINAL FANTASY X FOLLOWS!!! !!!DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN'T BEATEN FINAL FANTASY X!!!*

S
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And the fact that most of everyone in Final Fantasy X is dead, going to die, or never existed in the first place really bothered me. I haven't beaten FFX myself(I'm at the very end), but I know what happens(posts without spoiler markers do wonders :mad: ). Tidus disappears because of the whole Fayth/dream thing, Auron gets sent, and I think Yuna might die(not entirely sure 'bout that since I haven't heard anyone speak of it, but this is what the game will have you believe through most of it). C'mon guys... The good guys are supposed to triumph, and walk away HAPPY, like in FF8. So OK, I'll rephrase my statement... I have problems with the FFX ending, not the game itself. Because I really did have a lot of fun with that game... The sphere grid idea was beautifully done, MOST of the voice acting was top notch(Gotta love Wakka's accent, and Auron's almost-raspy voice. And who can forget Rikku's spunky voice, or Tidus' cheery "Told ya!"). I really had a lot of fun with that game... But the whole "Cycle of Death" thing really got to me...

japoniano
February 6th, 2002, 17:36
I wonder if these work here.

Exodus
February 6th, 2002, 20:02
i probably like most of squaresoft's games because i'm brainwashed...:eek: ...square is my master... except for those "happy" games.

Lyrai
February 7th, 2002, 03:32
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest is cool. It got me and my brother interested in RPG's. AS for worst RPG, I'd say it's a three-way tie between Secret of Evermore for SNES, Shadowrun for SNES, and Pokemon for any system

Pikachu:mg:
Ash:rockets:
Pokemon:laser:

SadAngel
February 7th, 2002, 21:30
well... I really liked MQ when I played it... is a good game in my opinion, specially for people who don't like RPG's. it's like an RPG/Adventure hibryd.

Esturk
February 7th, 2002, 22:11
Originally posted by Lyrai
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest is cool. It got me and my brother interested in RPG's. AS for worst RPG, I'd say it's a three-way tie between Secret of Evermore for SNES, Shadowrun for SNES, and Pokemon for any system

Pikachu:mg:
Ash:rockets:
Pokemon:laser:

Secret of Evermore? How dare you!:mad:

Lyrai
February 8th, 2002, 01:22
C'mon! Squaresoft didn't even make Secret of Evermore! It was solely a Square USA game. Oh and whats the code for the barfing smilie?

E-double
February 8th, 2002, 02:51
MQ is also made by square usa also goes by the name "sunsoft"IIRC

Esturk
February 8th, 2002, 03:12
Originally posted by Lyrai
C'mon! Squaresoft didn't even make Secret of Evermore! It was solely a Square USA game. Oh and whats the code for the barfing smilie?
So what if Square USA made it? I still think it's a good game. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad game.

E-double
February 8th, 2002, 05:55
Secret of Evermore WAS a great game! it had more japanese inflence than MQ though..youd think they help out more with FFMQ but back then FF wasnt as big a name to live up to as it is today

Taisen
February 8th, 2002, 20:39
i also didnt like how FF1 had the thing where the character wouldn't attack a different monster even if the one they were originally assigned to attack had died.
A tradition alive and well in Golden Sun.

Final Fantasy 1 was the first rpg I played but I didn't initially like it. It needed some time to grow on me.

Square USA is not sunsoft. Just wanted to make that clear. The above message seems to be pointing at it.

I enjoyed MQ and Quest 64 but I do hate the gameboy quest game that isn't an rpg. I am surprised that some hate one and like the other. Aren't they filling the same niche?

I'd go for Final Fantasy Legend 1 as the worst rpg but I love the game.(a love-hate relationship) The limits on weapons and those expensive heart containers you need to revive members are the two factors which give it such a title for me. Furthest I got was the third world, only one member barely alive, and maybe no or one heart container for her. I didn't have enough to buy any of the blasted hearts, and not enough of a force to climb down the tower or battle against the current world's monsters for money.

Particleman
February 11th, 2002, 05:11
I happened to like Mystic Quest as well. It was one of the first console RPGs I played and it's simplified game mechanics are great for beginners. Final Fantasy Mystic Quest was made entirely by Square Japan, not Square USA (infact Mystic Quest was released in Japan before it was released in the US, Secret of Evermore was never released in Japan. I don't know where you heard that Secret of Evermore had more Japanese influence than Mystic Quest, because I'm pretty certain you're wrong. Anyways it doesn't really matter, good games are good games and bad games are bad games regardless of where they're made.

SadAngel
February 11th, 2002, 18:53
Originally posted by Lyrai
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest is cool. It got me and my brother interested in RPG's. AS for worst RPG, I'd say it's a three-way tie between Secret of Evermore for SNES, Shadowrun for SNES, and Pokemon for any system

Pikachu:mg:
Ash:rockets:
Pokemon:laser:


c'com!!! don't dare to say a thing about SOE!

Kane
February 11th, 2002, 19:02
I have to say, i agree to an extent, as I got interested in rpgs due to it too. It's a good rpg for a 6-8 year old. SoE was a little dull to me, but it was ok, and don't you dare say a thing about shadowrun. that was cool beyond words

Cajunspirit
February 11th, 2002, 19:52
Never liked that game....

flatbush27
February 12th, 2002, 01:49
i liked mystic quest. my opinion. i think the worst rpg was secret of stars. it was kinda was a "wannabe final fantasy." my opinion though.

sxamiga
February 12th, 2002, 02:39
I would say that you have point there flatbush27, about Secret of the Stars. Way back when this game was new and Nintendo was hyping it in Nintendo Power Magazine, none of the stores around where I live carried it and most of them had not even heard of it. Finally, at one store, I was told that the reason that stores did not carry this game, is that it was not very good and that they didn't want to get stuck with it sitting on their shelves. So I would say, if that doesn't qualify for one of the worst RPGS made, or perhaps, the worst, what does?
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Esturk
February 12th, 2002, 02:50
Nintendo Power tends to hype about a lot of crappy games.;)

flatbush27
February 12th, 2002, 02:58
Originally posted by Esturk17
Nintendo Power tends to hype about a lot of crappy games.;)

thats why i ended my subscription after the first three magazines i got.

password0k
February 12th, 2002, 04:52
Originally posted by Lyrai
whats the code for the barfing smilie?
It's 'spy' between two colons. :spy:

MQ and quest64 both sucked. Quest deserves a little credit though, because it was the first or second RPG to come out on the N64 back when that was new.
Secret of Evermore seemed like a great game when I played it, but I never figured out what to do after I found myself in that first dessert right after you get warped or something.
The whole Phantasy star series on the genesis, in my opinion, sucked. Mainly because I just didn't like the genesis, but it also didn't have a very good battle system, the most important part of an RPG.

Kane
February 12th, 2002, 11:45
Actualy I think that MQ might actualy pip it to the post owing to the fact that it is a smear on an otherwise pretty much unblemished record for the ff series

Lyrai
February 12th, 2002, 16:49
Originally posted by Lord Kane
and don't you dare say a thing about shadowrun. that was cool beyond words

Are you talking about the Shadowrun on Genesis or SNES? I was referinng to the SNES version

Kane
February 12th, 2002, 17:11
SNES; didn't even know there was a gen version

Lyrai
February 12th, 2002, 17:22
Most people thought the Genesis one was better. I thought you were referring to the gen version. From what I understand there two totally different games

Ryos
February 14th, 2002, 07:22
I disagree. I thought the SNES version of Shadowrun was fairly fun (I wouldn't put it on any of my top lists or anything). The Genesis one was quite annoying. That game puts the emphasis of leveling to a ridiculous extreme.

Lyrai
February 28th, 2002, 03:59
I've never played the Genesis version so I know nothing about it. But the SNES one had a bad aiming/moving system You had to use the control pad to move the aiming cursor. (I think, it's been awhile since I've played it) If you could use the SNES mouse in conjuncion w/ the pad it woiuld have been better.

Strider
February 28th, 2002, 05:51
shadowrun was one of my preferred games for the snes, it lost some of its charm in the sega version

the worst rpg? id say final fantasy mystic quest, i stopped playing it really early cause i couldnt take the cheesyness anymore, i mean seriously the game starts with a dark knight waking up and saying: I am in a bad mood I will take over earth!! hahaha !! haha!

GEO
February 28th, 2002, 09:37
This could turn into a poll !
I played quest 64, but got bored in the middle....there are worse games... like vandal hearts (PSX).
FF MQ is also bad, but we were talking about snes console in the early years...we have to give it a discount... ;)
Now, the bad games are the ones that have crappy graphics (considering the console) and a lowsy strory... and no sidequests and/or cool secrets likevandal hearts...
Secret of Evermore is average, i got till the end...(then the emu crashed in the final scenes when all is well when it ends well.....) but i didn't like the mazes and so on...

Recca
February 28th, 2002, 17:37
WHAT are you talkin about MQ rulez. shadow runner for that sake suck HORSESHOES TIMES 9.999.999.999.999.9999.999.9999.999
It's so lame man i could just:spy:

Strider
February 28th, 2002, 23:35
were you like 8 when you played ff mq? shadowrun was cool, it had cool music and the gameplay was good, everyones complaining about the cursor, but big deal, is it so hard to make a crosshair move?

sxamiga
March 1st, 2002, 01:26
I'm with you Recca, I liked MQ also. Granted, it wasn't the worlds greatest game, but, all in all, it was nice, fun, little RPG.
Strider, no need to be insulting, OKAY??? Every one has their likes and dislikes. As for being eight when playing MQ, the first time I played it I was 43. I say the first time because I have played it several times again since then.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Strider
March 1st, 2002, 02:02
aight, guess that was a little bit outa line...wasnt really meant as an insult though, I just don't like that game

sxamiga
March 1st, 2002, 02:24
That's allright, thanks for being understanding. You say you don't like the game, well, that is perfectally fine. It is your opinon and you are entitled to it. BTW, you are not alone, a lot of people don't care for FF MQ.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Snake785
March 1st, 2002, 02:34
I liked MQ as well. But, I couldn't complete it cause I lost the save file. :( And i don't have the time to play it again.

Lyrai
March 1st, 2002, 02:49
Mystic Quest was what got me first introduced into the Final Fantasy Series. It was simple, and easy to follow. (Plus the dragon claw was pretty cool) As for the shadowrun cursor, It's like trying to play Half-Life or Quake using only the keyboard.

Strider
March 1st, 2002, 02:54
Originally posted by Lyrai
Mystic Quest was what got me first introduced into the Final Fantasy Series. It was simple, and easy to follow. (Plus the dragon claw was pretty cool) As for the shadowrun cursor, It's like trying to play Half-Life or Quake using only the keyboard.

ff2 (ff4 japan) introduced me to role playing games period, one of my favourite all time games is ff3 (ff6 japan)... it had a cool story cool characters, and some of my favourite music, it was prolly my favourite music after chrono cross and chrono trigger

Snake785
March 1st, 2002, 02:57
Chrono Trigger got me started in RPGs and That was the best RPG I have played so far. I have beaten it once and I want to play it again. Also, I just LOVED the soundtrack for it. :)

I have played FF6 and I agree it also has a great sound track as well. I haven't beaten it though. But I really want to.

Strider
March 1st, 2002, 03:19
Originally posted by Snake785
Chrono Trigger got me started in RPGs and That was the best RPG I have played so far. I have beaten it once and I want to play it again. Also, I just LOVED the soundtrack for it. :)

I have played FF6 and I agree it also has a great sound track as well. I haven't beaten it though. But I really want to.

Chrono Trigger is wicked, its among my top 5 all time best... I've beaten it many times, ive played from the begining to end about 10 times over, my favourite characters are 1: Magus 2: Kaeru (frog/glenn) 3: Chrono i guess

i havent beaten ff6 either, always when i play i get all my chars to lvl 99 all gfs and magic... and then something happens to my save

Lyrai
March 1st, 2002, 03:34
Chrono Trigger definatly was the coolest rpg for the snes. At the game store I go to, they have used copies of it going for more than any of the PS2, XBX or GCN games. And people still buy Chrono Trigger. Oh and Strider: the hero was named Crono (No 'H')





Wasn't this a thread about the worst rpgs?

Strider
March 1st, 2002, 05:28
Originally posted by Lyrai
Chrono Trigger definatly was the coolest rpg for the snes. At the game store I go to, they have used copies of it going for more than any of the PS2, XBX or GCN games. And people still buy Chrono Trigger. Oh and Strider: the hero was named Crono (No 'H')





Wasn't this a thread about the worst rpgs?

I used the japenese spelling Chrono in japanese Crono in english... the japanese could fit 2 letters into 1 character space and then when they translated it they took out the h in the english version...

i guess it was about worst rpgs but who cares, good rpgs are good too

Recca
March 1st, 2002, 12:48
FF MQ is also what got me into the FF series.
Chrono trigger is an excellent game got all endings.

Lyrai
March 4th, 2002, 18:35
Originally posted by Recca

Chrono trigger is an excellent game got all endings.

Just how many endings did that game have anyway? The Strategy guide says ten but I've heard people say i has up to 14, including the one you get when you challenge Lavos and die. (BUT.....THE WORLD REFUSED TO CHANGE)

Kane
March 4th, 2002, 18:55
I'm given to understand there are 13, but I've only yet got 4.

Strider
March 5th, 2002, 05:31
well im glad to see that some people here have the same pescimistic opinion on ff mq as me (i just checked out the older posts)... as far as ff3 (ff6) goes, the only thing that was wrong with that game was kefka, a face painting cross dressing wussy who runs away from almost all the fights u have with him. FF6 And CT are undoubtedly the best games for the snes

Irrbloss
March 5th, 2002, 09:31
Ill have to go with Quest64, that was an awful game..

Lyrai
March 6th, 2002, 23:22
I thought Brainlord for SNES sucked toenails through my left shoe. (Expression courtesy of my History Professor) :heh:

sxamiga
March 7th, 2002, 02:57
Lyrai, I couldn't agree w/you more about Brain Lord. That game is basically a"no brainer" meaning why would anyone w/any brains at all design a game like that.
Strider, no more about FF MQ please:(, enough has been said. I mean it. I've already closed a Poll/Thread about it. Let's all just leave that one alone, shall we? Thanks.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Strider
March 7th, 2002, 04:40
yeah i thought page 1 was new then... didnt see the little numbers leading to the next page

RhombusYSS
March 9th, 2002, 00:55
I'm sure I'll get crucified for this but I actually think FF 1 was one of the worst RPG's. Sure it was back in the NES days when nothing was particularly awesome, and most people were new to the concept of a videogame RPG, but even still. It was VERY poorly translated, had a crappy plot, no character development, endless battles, and poor graphics and sound. For those of us who had grown used to early IBM and Commodore 64/128 RPG's like the Ultima series, Bard's Tale, Might and Magic, etc. FF1 was pretty sad in comparison.

I will say this though, while I think FF1 sucks, FF6 and FF7 are definitely my favorite RPG's of all time, and I am a bonafide RPG (and FF addict) - I've played and completed all FF's 1-9 (haven't gotten my hands on a PS2 yet to play FFX) and yes, even MQ (which I didn't think was terrible - and was a good marketing decision to get young kids a taste of an RPG - look how many people say MQ was their first real console RPG).

X80
March 9th, 2002, 03:44
Has anyone played beyond the beyond for the playstation? That has to be the ugliest playstation rpg ever.

Exodus
March 15th, 2002, 01:23
i should be trying that one out soon, i just borrowed it from a friend.

Cless
March 16th, 2002, 02:05
the worst rpg that I have played recently would be evergrace or final fantasy 8.

I almost forgot Ephemeral Fantasia

Kane
March 16th, 2002, 02:20
I'm glad I never bought evergrace then :D

Cless
March 16th, 2002, 02:22
you should be

Taisen
March 22nd, 2002, 17:02
It is truly sad that MQ is viewed as kiddie fare. I wonder what some of you would have to say about Sega's and Nintendo's GC titles.

Xeven
March 22nd, 2002, 17:13
Originally posted by Lord Kane
I'm glad I never bought evergrace then :D

umm, what's evergrace? :heh:

Kane
March 22nd, 2002, 17:28
PS2 rpg

Exodus
March 22nd, 2002, 20:26
whats it like? or is it unique (yeah, right)

Strider
March 22nd, 2002, 21:11
i just noticed, every once in a while this thread is revived, it cant seem to die... i wonder how people always seem to find it in the archives...

Cless
March 22nd, 2002, 22:45
evergrace is game that was supposed to be on the ps1 but then thought ps2 would be better it wasn't. The graphics showed that it was meant for a ps1 and the game was just the stantard action rpg game play.