Temps seem a little odd

[Bubbafat]

Running at 100% processor burning a DVD movie, my cpu oc'd at 3.0ghz now, on water cooling, my cpu temp in speed fan says 55-56C and the 2 cores say 70-71C seems a little wrong

[redlofredlof]

Why don't you check the temperature in the bios, I had similar confusion before.

[skoreanime]

You can check your temps in the BIOS while running an OS and doing tasks like burning a DVD and at full load?... Neat, you'll have to tell me how to do that.

Try Intel TAT and Coretemp also Bubbafat. Trusting a reading just from one app isn't exactly the right way to do it ;)

[StriderVM]

You know.... To be safe, pick the one with the highest temp. :p

[Bubbafat]

You can check your temps in the BIOS while running an OS and doing tasks like burning a DVD and at full load?... Neat, you'll have to tell me how to do that.

Try Intel TAT and Coretemp also Bubbafat. Trusting a reading just from one app isn't exactly the right way to do it ;)




using nero, making a dvd, it has to transcode and do all that before it burns the dvd so it takes 100% of the cpu to do it, and it takes like 45 mins... And i probably should do more than one program shouldnt i :D oops.

[Phil]

Make sure the water block is properly seated;)

Are you using a kit??? If so lap the water block. Most kits have horrible finishes on the block.

What coolant are you using???

[runawayprisoner]

If it's each core's temperature, then it's the in-die sensors working... a.k.a. that's the temperature inside the CPU. If it's speedfan, then it's the sensor on the motherboard, which is placed near the CPU socket. A.k.a. that's the temperature outside right outside of the CPU.

Nothing is wrong. It's just that way.

[gamefreak94]

You might want to downclock your CPU to 2.8GHz ir something or lower the voltage if your cooler isn't the problem. 70C cannot be healthy for your CPU!

But if gave good temps before and is giving high readings right now, it could mean (as Phil said) your water block out of position or something. It might even have a leak in it;)

[runawayprisoner]

70C is healthy. :p Gosh darn I'd say go to 80C and stay there 24/7 for a whole year! That's what servers back in the days used to run at when humidity was high.

The only way it can crap out at higher temperatures is if it was built out of cheap materials.

[gamefreak94]

70C is healthy. :p Gosh darn I'd say go to 80C and stay there 24/7 for a whole year! That's what servers back in the days used to run at when humidity was high.

The only way it can crap out at higher temperatures is if it was built out of cheap materials.

oO Then why do they say in countless places that above 70C can cause lock-ups and drastically reduce life-span?:)

[runawayprisoner]

oO Then why do they say in countless places that above 70C can cause lock-ups and drastically reduce life-span?:)

Because manufacturers don't use diamond to create these processors. lol

[gamefreak94]

How about super-magnetized Tungsten which just won't melt...............even at 1 million degreesoO :rotflmao:

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Yeah we all want to just drool at processors but never in a million year be able to afford them...
Also would the magnetised metal not cause havoc on all those other electrical components of a PC?...last time I checked magnets + electrical component did not work that well...

[Phil]

Schumi your computer is made up of magnets :rotflmao:

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Oh I see. It's just one time one of our speakers broke and I took it's magnet out and was screwing around with it and I kept on getting warned not get it anywhere near anything eletronic as it will get screwed up. Guess magnetism affects some electrical devices differently than others though...

[Phil]

Your Harddrive is made up of magnetic sectors :p

Place a 100 Tesla magnet on top to make it perform better :nod:

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

I will remember that if ever need to make it unreadable. Thanks for the tip.

[gamefreak94]

Yeah we all want to just drool at processors but never in a million year be able to afford them...
Also would the magnetised metal not cause havoc on all those other electrical components of a PC?...last time I checked magnets + electrical component did not work that well...

Well duh! All you'd need to do is entomb it in a sarcophagus like the one that covers Chernobyl:rotflmao:

I will remember that if ever need to make it unreadable. Thanks for the tip.

Actually, its not that easy to make an HD unreadable purely by magnetizing the crap out of it. In a TV program, they actually had to use a strong electro-magnet like the ones used in recycle yards to damage it. Nothing short if this did any damage whatsoever o_O

[Bubbafat]

Try and get my post a little on topic for a sec: So the high 70C inside the processor is bad? (i know if the cpu total is very) And what would i need to use to monitor my northbridge temps? I have a fan on the huge cooler so its cool to the touch after overclocking, when stock without the fan would litterally burn your hand, i will have to take pics of it...


Gee i can put the magnet thing to the test:evil: got a ton of old 2gb ones:p

[IamWhatIam]

you could use everest ultimate edition to monitor the northbridge temperature.

[gamefreak94]

Gee i can put the magnet thing to the test got a ton of old 2gb ones:p

I don't think they'd sell for much so there's no loss in doing it. Just make sure you have 1000 pound electro-magnet though;)

[Bubbafat]

I don't think they'd sell for much so there's no loss in doing it. Just make sure you have 1000 pound electro-magnet though;)


really think i would do that to my 400gb :lol:

[gamefreak94]

Well just hold it in front of a door magnet and I guarantee nothing's gonna happen;)

BTW, you should update your sig, you do have your PC up and running

[dimentionalrift]

You want to talk about weird temps, how about this - After 45 minutes of playing Turok (1280*1024, world details-maximum, world textures-maximum and AFx2) my CPU goes from 45C to 98C, shuts down my computer and goes for a coffee break...what a slacker!!!:mad::mad::mad:!!!

Then it turns out my fan is on strike and instead of doing 3100rpm, he does 2300rpm...slacker!!!:mad::mad::mad:!!!

Atleast I found a great solution - I remove the side panel of the case (opposite the system), turn it so it faces me.....and I cool it down.....with my 25'' fan I found in the storage room.....a pretty good solution for air cooling.

[redlofredlof]

your computer case must be full of dust, cleaning would help lower the temperature. then you will not have to keep the side panels open.

[Bubbafat]

Well just hold it in front of a door magnet and I guarantee nothing's gonna happen;)

BTW, you should update your sig, you do have your PC up and running




Yeah thats true luckily i saved the old one, or if someone wants to get fancy can someone make one for me? Or isnt there a thread for that?

[gamefreak94]

Sorry, I'm crap at Photoshop and indeed any type of artwork:D

[dimentionalrift]

your computer case must be full of dust, cleaning would help lower the temperature. then you will not have to keep the side panels open.

My case is CLEAN, completely clean.
I have removed my GPU, cleaned its cooler, removed it, cleaned its insides (the PCB), cleaned the PCI-E port at the bottom of the card and then cleaned the PCI-E bus on the motherboard.
Then I remover the CPU fan, cleaned it, removed the heat-sink, cleaned it, cleaned the top of the cpu, administered a new layer of heat resistant paste, put the heat-sink back, put the fan back, locked it down and finished the whole thing.

The reason for the overheating is the CPU fan - I opened PC Health in BIOS after turning the computer on (after 9 hours of not working) and every rwo minutes my fan would stop working.
I checked the power connection, but I have an exact same fan on the back panel of the case and it works fine.
I wanted to fix the problem but I did some calculations on paper and it turns out that buying an entirely new system would be a much better investment now than fixing the problem with the fan and sticking to the current build I have.

[redlofredlof]

Why don't you just buy a new cpu fan or any ordinary fan which is the same size as the cpu fan and connect it directly to the power supply unit.

[dimentionalrift]

Naah...I'm already buying a new system in a couple of days and I'm planning to do some overclocking.
Besides, My current system is very old and I don't like the way it operates sometimes, which is why simply buying a new fan won't solve the real issue - low-grade performance on mid level games.

[redlofredlof]

Okay, its your computer, have fun with the new one. What's the config of the new one gonna be?

[dimentionalrift]

Okay, its your computer, have fun with the new one. What's the config of the new one gonna be?

CPU - PhenomX4 9950BE @2.6GHz - going to overclock it to 3.2GHz

CPU cooler - ThermalTake VX-120 Big Type

MotherBoard - Gigabyte AMD 790FX DS5

Memory - 2*2GB Corsair XMSII DDR2 @800MHz

GPU - ASUS HD4870X2 2GB GDDR5 @stock

Case - Gigabyte Aurora3D 570 Black

DVDRW - ASUS DVD-RW x20 SATA + LightScribe

HDD - I'm keeping my old WD 250GB SATA2 7200rpm, maybe I'll add another one later

PSU - I'm keeping my EZC PS-07 1050W PSU

Portable HDD - WD Passport 160GB USB 2.0

Total price for the whole list is around 1800$, give or take 50$

[redlofredlof]

If you are keeping the old power supply and the HDD what will you power up the old computer with?
the new motherboard looks good, expect lots of bundled stuff(gigabyte) and graphics card is certainly a winner.

[dimentionalrift]

Thats the thing, I'm selling it to the importer I'm buying the new computer from and therefore I won't have to pay for the CPU and the memory...kindda like a trade.
This also cuts down the cost and allows me to add something in the future, like a new screen or another 4870X2, who knows...

[gamefreak94]

Back with AMD I see, I thought you wanted a Q9550 or QX9770 which was being sold to you cheaply?

[dimentionalrift]

I checked and turned out that the system I planned to get with the Q9550 would cost me 2463$, and non of the major parts had a price low enough for me to trade my current PC for.
The QX9770 cost only 450$ on Ebay, but coupled with the delivary fee and the import tax for items from north american countries kicked it to somewhere between 870$ and 900$, well beyond the amount I was ready to spend on a CPU, especially since it came without a cooler, and the Intel build was out of the budget limit with no after-market cooling included.
That left me with the Phenom build which I managed to lower to 1850$, and even lower because I am able to trade my PC for both the CPU (Phenom 9950BE) and the memory (Corsair 2*2GB XMS2 DDR2 800MHz).
Bottom line, the critical factor was the price, not the dilema between getting Intel or AMD.

[gamefreak94]

Yeah I suppose so. btw, that's air cooling right?

[dimentionalrift]

Yes, the after-market cooler I mentioned was air based.
Water cooling isn't an option even with the Phenom build - too much money to pay, too much work to do.