View Full Version : Push pins aren't so bad
MrPink
August 4th, 2008, 21:29
I recently installed an OCZ Vendetta 2 as part a new system for a friend. I didn't find the push pins that it uses in any way unreasonable...what I do wonder is if those little plastic barbs will really keep this monster upright for the life of his sytem :/
I plan on getting one of these coolers, but is there some kind of back plate or something I can buy instead of using the push pins? If anyone has a giant CPU cooler that uses push pins, and can tell me they work fine, then ok I won't worry about it.:thumb:
runawayprisoner
August 4th, 2008, 21:41
Nope, push-pins aren't bad when you install them or anything (damn, they are good at that, I dare say), but they aren't good enough compared to the good ol' screwing methods. That said, you should be looking at screws and bolts and nuts if you want to seat your heatsink properly (for perfect contact and 100% guaranteed thermal transfer). Why is this? Push-pin may have... gaps when you push the pins down. They cannot be tightened as much as screws, bolts, and nuts, so if they leave a gap (Intel's stock cooler does this a lot), then you are screwed.
MrPink
August 4th, 2008, 22:07
So then are there any backplates I can get for the Vendetta 2 in order to screw it down? I see some on newegg, but they are from other companies (Xigmatek, Thermaltake/right (you know what i mean)) and I think are meant for their coolers...or do you know of any universal back plate/screw kits that would work with the aforementioned cooler?
runawayprisoner
August 4th, 2008, 22:59
Just take the pins out and use some screws/bolts/nuts to nail the cooler to the board. It's that simple. ;p
MrPink
August 4th, 2008, 23:59
Just take the pins out and use some screws/bolts/nuts to nail the cooler to the board. It's that simple. ;p
I'd rather not, thank youoO I was under the impression that nails and bolts do +500% damage to silicon PCB:p
runawayprisoner
August 5th, 2008, 00:28
That's why you use rubber rings to reduce the damage. :p
MrPink
August 5th, 2008, 00:50
You are a maniac lol, I think i'll just get a cooler that has it's own screw mounting system...one that I won't have to drill through the mobo;) Maybe a Xigmatek
runawayprisoner
August 5th, 2008, 01:51
Or get a TRUE, and get the mounting system from Thermaltake. Done deal. ;p You should be grateful I didn't tell you about the rubber band method, because that one is one that is seriously going to do some damages...
jonc2006
August 5th, 2008, 04:25
what is this mounting system you are talking about? im replacing the heatsink/fan that came with my E8400 because i had a really hard time to get the thing to stay put, and i would prefer to use something that is not so hard to get seated. im looking at this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134) one right now however i noticed it that it appears to have those same locking mechanisms that the stock is using. would this one be a little less frustrating to install or should i seek out something else that uses another kind of seating method?
runawayprisoner
August 5th, 2008, 04:37
The push-pin method is the easiest one to install. Simply put.
If you absolutely have to have more thermal contact, then opt for another method.
skoreanime
August 5th, 2008, 05:21
I just find the LGA 775 especially annoying with large NB heatsink that wrap around the CPU area. It's a freaking pain pushing in that one last pin that's right next to said heatsink.
runawayprisoner
August 5th, 2008, 05:28
Oh... clearly, you've never had a high-end ASUS board that also has heatsinks on the mosfets. :p You'd think that it's impossible to use push-pin with such a board... when everything is like... wrapped in that area.
skoreanime
August 5th, 2008, 05:30
Oh... clearly, you've never had a high-end ASUS board that also has heatsinks on the mosfets. :p You'd think that it's impossible to use push-pin with such a board... when everything is like... wrapped in that area.
Oh, I have. P5W DH Deluxe had that wrap around heatsink on the MOSFETS. Even my tiny fingers had trouble on that last pin :mad:
runawayprisoner
August 5th, 2008, 05:31
Lesson: always install a HSF when your mobo is outside. ;p
skoreanime
August 5th, 2008, 05:33
I do, but it's still annoying. Hell, I even like AMDs old socket 939 more compared to this LGA775 crap.
Princess Garnet
August 5th, 2008, 05:52
what is this mounting system you are talking about? im replacing the heatsink/fan that came with my E8400 because i had a really hard time to get the thing to stay put, and i would prefer to use something that is not so hard to get seated. im looking at this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134) one right now however i noticed it that it appears to have those same locking mechanisms that the stock is using. would this one be a little less frustrating to install or should i seek out something else that uses another kind of seating method?I can answer. I'm using my E2160 with the stock Intel cooler. I'm using my E8400 with the one you're looking at getting. They're both push-pin, but the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro was much easier for me to install. The stock Intel one installs so tightly, it slightly bends the board.Oh... clearly, you've never had a high-end ASUS board that also has heatsinks on the mosfets. :p You'd think that it's impossible to use push-pin with such a board... when everything is like... wrapped in that area.I didn't have that much trouble (and I've mounted it a fair few times), but I studied up on how the push pin attachment for LGA775 worked beforehand. There's a link in the reviews of the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro that leads to a video on Youtube showing how to install one, and I watched that and read up a bit on it, and it was pretty easy. With LGA775, it's either a love or hate or easy or hard thing, it seems.
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