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megan16
June 28th, 2008, 00:55
I'm having problem with play playstation ISO games on my computer. I have no video card. My monitor is a 19" LCD. It only works on a 320x240 resolution mode. When I increase it to 640x480 the game becomes very slow. I tried it on my 17" CRT monitor with a poorer computer spec and it works. On my CRT, I ALT+ENTER into full screen and it auto adjusts to fill the whole screen. I believe I also use 320x240 on my CRT. However, when I did the same thing on my DuoCore PC, the screen becomes fixated on the upper left-hand corner with an aspect ratio of 320x240 res., and does not readjusts itself to fill the whole screen. I wonder why it doesn't expand like it did on my CRT?

I want to know if there is an issue here or is this normal?


http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9080/06272008164255ap0.png

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.77
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: Microsoft Corporation
GFX card: GDI Generic
OGL version: 1.1.0

Resolution/Color:
- 320x240 Window mode
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off

Textures:
- Default
- Filtering: 0
- Hi-Res textures: 0
- VRam size: 0 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: off
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 1
- Framebuffer texture: 0
- Framebuffer access: 0
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: off
- Advanced blending: off

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- 15 bit FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: off
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

imspecial
June 28th, 2008, 02:14
you need a graphics card to run pcsx2 or any game from the past 8 or so years for that matter

jonc2006
June 28th, 2008, 02:21
epsxe is a ps1 emulator, not a ps2.

megan16
June 28th, 2008, 02:24
I'm trying to play psx games, not ps2's. I recall it working at a decent level and full screen without a graphic card.

It DOES work with skip frame but I don't think I want that. It skips too much. Is there no other way but to purchase a decent gfx card?

// I'll try it on my vista laptop with Radeon video card.

jonc2006
June 28th, 2008, 02:32
how does it perform with the software plugin?

megan16
June 28th, 2008, 02:49
how does it perform with the software plugin?

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/82/06272008184626fh7.png
I can only get pete's opengl to work. It works fine at 320x240. Another increase might work, but increasing the size to 500 there will be subtle lags showing.

// !My mistake. I did not check the above FPS setting. Do you see the setting on FPS: F5? I need to toggle that. Now it works... for now at least--I hope. Frame skip? =(

karas81
June 28th, 2008, 03:00
How many PCs you have ?
Post their specs ?
Don't get confused and do not confuse us with you ? use one good PC (there is no way for 320 X 240 with OPGL Plugins oO) ?!.

megan16
June 28th, 2008, 03:07
You can find my computer spec. above.

karas81
June 28th, 2008, 03:13
What about your GFX card ?
and don't tell me your system has no GFX card ?

megan16
June 28th, 2008, 03:14
What about your GFX card ?
and don't tell me your system has no GFX card ?

I mentioned that above, I believe.

karas81
June 28th, 2008, 03:18
You nOOb, go install some drivers to your PC, then come back again.

megan16
June 28th, 2008, 03:37
You nOOb, go install some drivers to your PC, then come back again.

Wow. This is the first time I have been labeled a noob, and for such a trivial reason. I am amused by this. You're a simple person. Or maybe this is a foolish joke? Neither way, I find no offence in it.

// jonc2006, I got the Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.77 to work with some setting tweaks. The sounds are very smooth, but I do notice subtle lag when text dialogue is being displayed whilst characters are talking. Graphic is as it should be as I have an onboard video chipset. I tested out on my laptop with Radeon video card installed and it works wonders.

Coolsvilleman
June 28th, 2008, 03:37
you need a graphics card to run pcsx2 or any game from the past 8 or so years for that matter

You need a graphics card to running any desktop computer in the last 15 years or so. Even onboard counts as a card.

KrossX
June 28th, 2008, 03:40
So much for politeness.

Anyhow, yes, you have a GPU of some sort. Why? Because if you don't, your monitor wouldn't be connected to anything and you wouldn't be able to see anything at all. Basicly, you see image on the screen? Then you have a GPU.

Do the following:
Press WIN+R, type dxdiag in it and press enter. Use the [Save All Information...] button and save the file. Then, attach the file here.

Basicly, it's quite probably that you're using the default VGA/SVGA video driver. This is used when no driver is found in the system for your display device. Therefore, hanibal's subtle suggestion is correct in that you need to find and install the proper drivers for your display device. The previously requested information will help in finding it.

karas81
June 28th, 2008, 03:42
Wow. This is the first time I have been labeled a noob, and for such a trivial reason. I am amused by this. You're a simple person. Or maybe this is a foolish joke? Neither way, I find no offence in it.

// jonc2006, I got the Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.77 to work with some setting tweaks. The sounds are very smooth, but I do notice subtle lag when text dialogue is being displayed whilst characters are talking. Graphic is as it should be as I have an onboard video chipset. I tested out on my laptop with Radeon video card installed and it works wonders.

No offence :thumb:

megan16
June 28th, 2008, 04:03
I tend to not mind what is said. It's hard to read others by words, be it sarcastic or not. Letters and numbers can be interpreted in many ways. And when on meaning is stated, one has to think about the purpose for why it was expressed before taking action. :)

@KrossX, I got it to work for what I paid for. Let's just see what my computer has to offer. It was built for basic computing and leaning towards a little video editing. Thanks for the mention about posting my log, but I'll keep that to myself for now. Any further help, I'll be sure to post it. Thank you all.

*slaps hanibal81*

karas81
June 28th, 2008, 04:20
NOW, you're a real nOOB :p

Coolsvilleman
June 28th, 2008, 04:47
NOW, you're a real nOOB :p

What was he before... pre-noob?

ShendoXT
June 28th, 2008, 07:58
hanibal81: stop with the name calling or I will issue you a warning.

megan16: For integrated cards you can use Pete's D3D DX6 gpu plugin.
It would be great if you could at least post a name of you graphic card because if you want help
from a community you have to cooperate. Keeping stuff to yourself will result in little or no help at all.

Squall-Leonhart
June 28th, 2008, 08:02
hanibal81: stop with the name calling or I will issue you a warning.


Just ban him, you'll have the support of 80% of the forum if you do.

karas81
June 28th, 2008, 13:00
hanibal81: stop with the name calling or I will issue you a warning.

megan16: For integrated cards you can use Pete's D3D DX6 gpu plugin.
It would be great if you could at least post a name of you graphic card because if you want help
from a community you have to cooperate. Keeping stuff to yourself will result in little or no help at all.

Dear SHENDO, I'm not the bad guy, the other help-seeker was somehow trying to show how smart he is in time he hasn't even the time to understand people who wants to help him.

I mentioned that above, I believe.

So........oO

And if he's in place where he can give slaps to people (those supposed to provide help to him), then I'm not that kind of man who obeys for such ...........
THANX IN ADVANCE.

Squall-Leonhart
June 28th, 2008, 16:44
Dear SHENDO, I'm not the bad guy, the other help-seeker was somehow trying to show how smart he is in time he hasn't even the time to understand people who wants to help him.



So........oO

And if he's in place where he can give slaps to people (those supposed to provide help to him), then I'm not that kind of man who obeys for such ...........
THANX IN ADVANCE.

you are pushing for a ban, beg forgiveness immediately.

I'm not joking. :mad:

Ilya-v
June 28th, 2008, 16:56
Its funny how you Geeks fight over PS EMULATTION and *VIRTUAL SLAPS*

:D :D :D

:rotflmao::beer:

If only you could hear me Laughing. :lol:

ShendoXT
June 28th, 2008, 17:35
hanibal81: if you think that someone insulted you report him to mods, taking actions on your own often result in a flame war where both sides pay in the end.

Squall-Leonhart: Chill out. If someone did something to earn a ban I can guarantee that he will be banned.

Ilya-v: If you don't have anything constructive to say don't post.

Squall-Leonhart
June 28th, 2008, 17:44
hanibal81: if you think that someone insulted you report him to mods, taking actions on your own often result in a flame war where both sides pay in the end.

Squall-Leonhart: Chill out. If someone did something to earn a ban I can guarantee that he will be banned.

Ilya-v: If you don't have anything constructive to say don't post.

ok.... *goes off to random board to initiate ban hanibal vote*

myloch
June 28th, 2008, 18:26
When I bought my actual pc some time ago the seller said it was "without gpu" :lol:, in reality it had an integrated gpu. Megan16 should have said "my pc is without graphic card" (like all nvidia, ati and older 3dfx dedicated boards). Unfortunately these language imprecisions may lead to flame wars, for futile reasons, but it depends also on users common sense.

Dax
June 30th, 2008, 03:24
Megan, your core 2 duo should run the software plugin just fine. My 1.8Ghz Core Duo[laptop processor..] runs a lot of games at 60 FPS at 960x720(scale 3xhq or whatever) resolution. I dunno why it'd lag past the default resolution considering your processor is more powerful than mine.

ping0death
June 30th, 2008, 03:36
I for one am an Anti-newbite

ShendoXT
June 30th, 2008, 03:42
Ok. Let's start over.

megan16, you have an unnamed integrated card and you are using default microsoft drivers. That is not good.
As hanibal81 said earlier you need to install video drivers for your card.
After that use Pete's D3D DX6 video plugin and everything should work without any slowdown.

Kazuya
June 30th, 2008, 05:42
And please, check the upper side of the configuration table, there you will find the option for Fullscreen instead of selecting windowed mode and then Ctrl+Enter

ARC@NO
July 11th, 2008, 02:10
It is better if you told us your Motherboard model, It appears on DXDIAG main window, with that info we will be able to supply a link with the driver of your onboard GPU.

Phil
July 11th, 2008, 03:47
agreed. and yes onboard counts as a card

Squall-Leonhart
July 11th, 2008, 10:11
agreed. and yes onboard counts as a card

not if its made by intel and shares system memory. then its just a video chip.

Phil
July 11th, 2008, 10:48
which are getting increasingly powerful these days.

my 950 gma runs PCSX2......30 FPS in ffXII fmvs and 3-12 fps ingame

Squall-Leonhart
July 11th, 2008, 11:02
try running an opengl emulator on it, it only supports up to 1.4 most of the time.

KrossX
July 11th, 2008, 11:09
Indeed, graphics cards are.... cards. Integrated display devices are, IGPs (Integrated Graphics Processors).

That speed on emulation is basicly your CPU doing all the job... >.>

I wouldn't trust IGPs unless they're cutdown versions of powerful GeForce/ATI cards.

Anyway, suggestions were sent to the OP long ago, who has not answered at all. This thread is getting quite offtopic, might be the time to close it?

Squall-Leonhart
July 11th, 2008, 11:18
hey don't lump nvidia and ati mobile chips with intel, they are dedicated IGP's, with actual GPU's and dedicated memory.

KrossX
July 11th, 2008, 14:21
LoL ... but but ... IGPs are IGPs... >.>

I know, nVIDIA's or ATI's are no match against lite emulated capabilities with little hardware assistance offered by Intel, VIA or SiS. And... about the memory... there's nVIDIA's Turbo Cache for example... >.>

+voteclose ?

Squall-Leonhart
July 11th, 2008, 15:04
Turbocache... yuck, don't go there,i don't even acknowledge their existance.