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Originally Posted by cottonvibes
too lazy to read schumi's huge WOT post xD, but its great to know at least 1 very-easy programming language for quick app-development.
sometimes you need to code some quick and dirty app to do something, and something like VB.net is a very nice thing to know.
you can code apps in minutes that would take maybe hours in c++.
also, new programming tools are just ways to help your coding, you still have to know what you're doing.
any coder that actually likes being productive, tends to use the newer tools, because when you're coding all the time, anything that helps you create stuff faster is a good thing.
if you really want to challenge yourself, using old-tools is not the way to do it. instead use languages like c++ to code something that needs performance (like an emu), and then optimize the slow parts of the program with low-level assembly.
that can be a challenge, but it will be a 'good' challenge that's not in-vain.
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While i agree with some parts of your post i still want to correct you there a bit.... when you work for a company productivity is the only way because when you get a job to do it must be done "YESTERDAY" so to say... anyways i do agree with you when it comes to VB.net and rapid app development even if i donīt recommend that language anyways... now when it comes to challenge every language can be a challenge for a beginner... also learning some C++ and joining a Emu project for "Challenge" doesnīt make a beginner more advanced at all to me... in fact it just makes him think heīs advanced while heīs still far from it.... but all of that of course can vary depending people views..
iīve been coding now for more than the half of my life.. i started to code at the age of 13(1993) and would you like to know whatīs the biggest and best challenges iīve seen while coding and writing code in different languages all those years??????? you will probably be chocked but that language is called "ASP.NET"!!! maybe few people ask why????
let me explain... while in C you have to write a small bible to create a simple window there is still to many ways and almost limitless possibilities which allows you to make crazy things.. after all this years iīve lost the interest because i didnīt saw it as a challenge anymore(because as it never was)... ASP.Net in other hands isnīt powerfull, is used for web/intranet apps only etc... the thing is i have a old C habit which drive me to always create all my stuff myself and donīt even use windows components as i feel like is not my code... the thing is with ASP.net youīre limited everywhere because of web-browser limits or way to do stuff... because of that youīre forced to learn and do things from the ground up and just as i do even create your own controls in order to do special tasks.. you believe it or not this kind of techniques forces you to learn things the hard way and also manage your code the way it should be.. Optimize, Optimize and againg Optimize your code in ASP.net otherwise you will be in trouble.
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Last edited by @ruantec; June 7th, 2009 at 14:16..