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**Spacy** · September 2nd, 2008

Holy cow, I just skimmed through this thread to find out why mud was banned, and I'd never expect him to be like this. I think there must have occured something really bad in his RL for imprinting such opinions into him.

Now OnTopic, I read the argument "If you want to kill yourself, join the army.", which is really stupid IMO, because in the process, you kill other people as well, which surely does make you a murderer. OK, but wether killing in a war is a crime is a whole new flaming topic for itself, so it won't bring us any further.

Even though I don't like these wishy-washy final arguments, I think that rating suicide depends so much on religion, that you can use the answer for the right religion here: You can not say for sure, if suicide is okay or not, like you can not say which religion is the best for you, or if atheism is right.

However, what we can say for sure is, whenever you hear about someone wanting to commit suicide, you won't help him at all by telling him he is not allowed to do so or by accusing him of being brain-dead. IMO it is most efficient to actually find the problem in his/her life and try to correct it. I claim that no one with a perfect life and without any bad influences would ever think of suicide, so I conclude that a suicide-wish is the result of fatal problems without any hope of improvement. There are unsolvable problems for sure, but I think most people with a suicide-wish are caught in their own world and need help from the outisde to show them new paths out of their misery.

However, not all problems are correctable. On television, I saw a woman who was sick from head to toe (I don't remember what she had) and she was plagued by incredible pain without any chance of improvements. She asked a doctor to get her something with what she was able to kill herself unproblematically. IMO, the woman had all the rights in the world to commit suicide in her situation, and no one in the world could have helped her out of her disease. Isn't this like when your mum told you to squash the worm you accidentally cut in half together with an apple, in order to relieve him from his pain?

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(Ouch, I just compared a sick woman to a worm cut into halves... I hope this doesn't get me banned. But believe me, in this exact situation, they are technically the same, you can't put two halves of a worm together.)

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Last edited by Spacy; September 2nd, 2008 at 22:36..

September 2nd, 2008	#184 (permalink)
Spacy GBA emulator developer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 392	Holy cow, I just skimmed through this thread to find out why mud was banned, and I'd never expect him to be like this. I think there must have occured something really bad in his RL for imprinting such opinions into him. Now OnTopic, I read the argument "If you want to kill yourself, join the army.", which is really stupid IMO, because in the process, you kill other people as well, which surely does make you a murderer. OK, but wether killing in a war is a crime is a whole new flaming topic for itself, so it won't bring us any further. Even though I don't like these wishy-washy final arguments, I think that rating suicide depends so much on religion, that you can use the answer for the right religion here: You can not say for sure, if suicide is okay or not, like you can not say which religion is the best for you, or if atheism is right. However, what we can say for sure is, whenever you hear about someone wanting to commit suicide, you won't help him at all by telling him he is not allowed to do so or by accusing him of being brain-dead. IMO it is most efficient to actually find the problem in his/her life and try to correct it. I claim that no one with a perfect life and without any bad influences would ever think of suicide, so I conclude that a suicide-wish is the result of fatal problems without any hope of improvement. There are unsolvable problems for sure, but I think most people with a suicide-wish are caught in their own world and need help from the outisde to show them new paths out of their misery. However, not all problems are correctable. On television, I saw a woman who was sick from head to toe (I don't remember what she had) and she was plagued by incredible pain without any chance of improvements. She asked a doctor to get her something with what she was able to kill herself unproblematically. IMO, the woman had all the rights in the world to commit suicide in her situation, and no one in the world could have helped her out of her disease. Isn't this like when your mum told you to squash the worm you accidentally cut in half together with an apple, in order to relieve him from his pain? EDIT: (Ouch, I just compared a sick woman to a worm cut into halves... I hope this doesn't get me banned. But believe me, in this exact situation, they are technically the same, you can't put two halves of a worm together.) __________________ Last edited by Spacy; September 2nd, 2008 at 22:36..