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Originally Posted by Kazuya Mishima
Do you remember an experiment where they put a mouse in a bucket filled with water so they could see how much time it had left without drowning? They were throwing him little sticks of wood so he could hang into it for a little while until the stick would get really wet and sink.
That's how it feels in real life. It's not running away. It's more like feeling there are little breaks in all this mess but once that breath of air goes away you are in the same mess.
Eventually, the mouse gets tired and drowns. Is he a coward for not waiting until the next stick of wood? Is he weak because he didn't wait for it?
It's the same, it's a matter of getting tired and not having strength to continue. Even if we know it could be better in a little while but... is there really an end to all of this? The mouse knows there isn't. People tend to think there isn't. Another people outside of their situation may think there is and it may indeed be true but when you are in that hopeless state you really feel there is no way out. REALLY.
It's like being utterly realistic: C'mon, the mouse can hope some human hand will come and take it out, he can hope the human will accidentally kick the bucket and he will be released but... what are the odds? It doesn't seem possible. Should the mouse hang into it with a false hope of getting out? It's the same with humans. There COULD be a miracle, there could be something that saves you but... what are the odds? It really feels like there is no reasonable chance of change.
Of course it's selfish because there is collateral damage: all the people who loves you and the ones you could leave without money.
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thats nice analogy, but even the mouse didn't choose to die, and believe me, if the mouse is not tired, he will keep trying, the thing is life is so much precious to waste it.. sure I felt like I wanna die really bad, "Economical, Family, Love, Work, School and every kind of problems at the same time" but instead of committing suicide, I chose to live, and no matter what happen, let all the problems come at once, then if I got killed by somebody else or by a heartattack then it's okay, because I know from the bottom of my heart that I tried my best..
I can understand your point, it's really different when you live the problems and tragedy, but that's why there is other people you trust to help you.. Like the coach example you mentioned, sure he doesn't know how to play or even run, but he can make valuable advices that can really help the player.. it's like the people who observe but not live the situation can have logical exits strategies.. have you ever tried playing a puzzle game and you were stuck for an hour, then your brother comes within 2 minutes watching you he solve it.. (It's not like he is more clever than you, because it might happen to him if you switched the roles.)
well, if you want to make your example perfect, instead of the mouse. you should have mentioned the scorpion..
Scorpion will sting himself with his tale and commit suicied if he was sorrounded with fire (like a circle of fire and the scorpion in the middle)..
I don't know why this unique behavior from Scorpion..
Edit: I am with Schumi, Suicide is a crime, but since there is no one to blame or punish, it seems it's not.. well, it's like a murderer kills 10 people then kill himself, nobody to punish, he is GONE
Last edited by Rebel_X; August 26th, 2008 at 02:26..