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Originally Posted by galson
Nope, a suicide is a sign of a weakness and cowardice.
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Originally Posted by Rebel_X
he is coward, because he chose death as the end of his suffer
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I have been there. It's not a matter of not running away. I don't know why it's always seen like this by people who aren't in the same circumstances and instead are in a very comfortable place to make the choices and moral opinions than the guy who is really suffering. Have you been there to know what it's like or are you talking based on empirical and idealistic ideas?
Do you remember an experiment where they put a mouse in a bucket filled with water so they could see how much time it had left without drowning? They were throwing him little sticks of wood so he could hang into it for a little while until the stick would get really wet and sink.
That's how it feels in real life. It's not running away. It's more like feeling there are little breaks in all this mess but once that breath of air goes away you are in the same mess.
Eventually, the mouse gets tired and drowns. Is he a coward for not waiting until the next stick of wood? Is he weak because he didn't wait for it?
It's the same, it's a matter of getting tired and not having strength to continue. Even if we know it could be better in a little while but... is there really an end to all of this? The mouse knows there isn't. People tend to think there isn't. Another people outside of their situation may think there is and it may indeed be true but when you are in that hopeless state you really feel there is no way out. REALLY.
It's like being utterly realistic: C'mon, the mouse can hope some human hand will come and take it out, he can hope the human will accidentally kick the bucket and he will be released but... what are the odds? It doesn't seem possible. Should the mouse hang into it with a false hope of getting out? It's the same with humans. There COULD be a miracle, there could be something that saves you but... what are the odds? It really feels like there is no reasonable chance of change.
Preaching about suicide being wrong it's like talking about sports and how the player did bad in the game: You are not the one who is playing, you are the one who is sitting comfortably on the coach and making decisions from there as if you were actually playing but truth is you don't know what it is to play it for real.
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Originally Posted by Cid Highwind
Agreed, it's selfish, and can devastate the lifes of others.
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Originally Posted by cottonvibes
but as i got older i realized that its a very selfish thing to do.
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Of course it's selfish because there is collateral damage: all the people who loves you and the ones you could leave without money.
But I see even more selfish trying to decide what other people do with their lives while we are standing on some sort of higher moral ground without personally living and feeling what that guy feels.
Last edited by Kazuya Mishima; August 25th, 2008 at 21:12..