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Originally Posted by cottonvibes
look at all the problems people with ATI cards have with various emulators and you have your proof that ATI's drivers are worthless.
if they can't preform correctly, then they are worthless.
if a calculater says 2+2=5 then are you going to use it on a math test?
hopefully not.
so why should i buy a graphics card that fails to output graphics correctly?
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John pretty much already covered that. And you're overreacting on that one, especially with "fails to output graphics correctly" since it doesn't affect the card as a whole either.
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Originally Posted by cottonvibes
and when i compared the battle between nVidia and ATI, to Intel and AMD, you failed to notice my intention.
once 1 competing corporation gains dominance in a feild, its very hard for the loosing party to regain its stand.
AMD is pretty much f***ed in the ass right now, and theres not much they can do to regain their possition unless they release a chip thats more powerful than intel's CPUs, and at a cheaper price... which dosn't look likely.
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I didn't fail to notice your intention, I simply don't find it valid. While ATI is now under AMD, it still doesn't change the fact that you're comparing CPU to GPU. Just because AMD with the CPU is doing horribly doesn't mean the GPU side is BOUND to do horrible either.
And HOW is that related to delaying meaning loss? It still doesn't make sense. You still failed to see MY intention

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Originally Posted by cottonvibes
ATI is in the same situation.
with nVidia's 8800 and 9XXX series of cards, they really took the lead against ATI.
and now ATI will have to release a card thats alot more powerful than nVidia's cards to get back their recognition.
if they release a card thats only on-par with nVidia, then people would just get the nVidia card since they were most-likely pleased with their previous 8800/9XXX series card and would expect to be pleased with their next nVidia card.
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Obviously, but that's unrelated to what the conversation was about.
But ATI can still regain some grounds anyway. Some people who don't feel like paying a huge price for a 9900 card can still find the 4 series appealing with the cheaper price but good perfs (if they perform good).
Call that the "Wii principle"

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Originally Posted by cottonvibes
if nVidia has a bigger die size and performs better than ATI cards, then that just means nVidia is doing better than ATI.
a smaller die should in theory be faster and thus perform better, but since nVidia's perform on-par (or better) than ATI's cards, and they're running on a bigger die, then that just means if they shrink the die to the same size as ATI's card then they'll totally pwn them.
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I'm totally gonna let John take care of that