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Originally Posted by hushypushy
1. If it sounds perhaps a little too wild to be true ("they are still manufacturing defective units") then provide evidence. A news report? You might be right, but without citations, what you say is meaningless (like Wikipedia).
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Well i thought it was common knowledge, the 360 didn't have any major changes in hardware until recently where they started adding a second heatsink, and surprise surprise, only on the Elites. So they Premium and Core are still defective. And the older elites still have the problem btw.
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Originally Posted by hushypushy
2. Stop saying it in such a biased way. If I were the only one saying this to you, then probably by this point of the conversation I'd retract my point. But notice how other people feel the same way I do..?  As much as you vehemently try to deny it, the truth remains. Read your own posts, you are quite biased.
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Whatever. You see it that way, people that know me don't.
Funny how the 3 people that love their 360s (and there is nothing wrong with that) are the ones seeing me as "biased". Maybe your the ones a bit too much on the defensive side?
I might have said some pretty stupid things, but that was back in the days JKK was around, and it was only to piss him off.
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Originally Posted by hushypushy
 You distrust everything MS says and paint everything that they do in such a negative way...but yet all of the sudden you put all your faith in them? Are you trying to prove a point to me, or is that what you really believe?
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Please hushy, are you even thinking about what you just said?
Lying to make your company look good is understandable, lying to make your company look bad?...
And btw, it's called annual earnings announcements, they're made public to stock holders, and they had to justify the 1Billion in repairs by stating they had over 2.5 Million defective consoles.
The 2.5 Million was reported in Fox News, Microsoft it self have stated that EVERY console is defective, some retailers stopped accepting defective 360s, etc...
Of course depending on the conditions (weather, humidity, etc...) its normal that some people don't have problems. That doesn't mean there isn't one.
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Also, I already stated why i i'm against the current live fee. I've been playing online for free for ages, with good dedicated servers, now i need to pay to play on p2p servers? Nop. Charging for the others features is fine, but charging for just playing online is dumb.
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Originally Posted by Master Chief
I have never heard any instance of games blocking these programs. I have never seen Microsoft say these programs are illegal. They ARE NOT illegal. They ARE NOT a grey area. I don't understand why you won't accept this. It doesn't make any sense to think that this is a grey area.
Do you want to know why Bungie released the Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack on a seperate disc in addition to Live? Not just because some people don't have LIVE, but because some people use these programs! They even said it themselves.
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I know for a FACT that some games are blocking it. You can try it for your self, just go download LFS... That alone makes it a grey area. That's why its called a grey area, some support it some don't.
Oh and hushy... wikipedia?
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