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Originally Posted by Master Chief
Nobody could ever predict such a massacre. However, this kid was showing signs beforehand, but they did nothing about it. I don't believe in totally eliminating guns (how many freedoms can they take away for crying out loud?), I'm just asking for a bit of common sense. Clearly if the kid was writing stories like he was he has a problem. They should have sent him to get help or something. His parents must have been pretty stupid as well for not knowing what the heck was going on.
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they TRIED to do something about it, but he refused treatment. to my knowledge, they cannot force him to go into a mental hospital. but neverthe less, i still dont understand VT would allow someone with a history like that in.
i heard todaythat he had autism, which would explain the shyness, inablility to look at people in the eye, particpate in conversations/discussions, etc.. of course that isnt an excuse forwhat he did but it explains the mannerisums and his attitude or reponse to other people. parents dont really get involved on a college level like they do in grade-school.
college kids are supposed to be indepenent and dont really need to have everything they do there explained to their parents, as its not their problem. if he was under 18 or whatever, they legally have the right to make him do whatever they feel is better for their child. but the guy was an adult, and the minute he became one, his parents lost that power and therefore it was his job to take care of himself an it was his responsibility to act like an adult.
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Originally Posted by Tojira
It's not surprising to me the number of people that immediately make assumptions about the killer when they know little to nothing about him. The more I read about it all the more I sympathize with him. I'm not defending what he did in any way. What he did was of course sick and I really feel for everyone involved. But there's so much people don't understand about the killer himself (I don't claim to know for sure either, but I think I have a pretty good idea). I don't believe he was "evil" or a terrible person. By the time he decided to do what he did he would have been beyond reason. I can't explain how he would have been feeling. You'd have to know for yourself. But teasing and bullying can lead you to lose your sense of reality. He'd developed a hatred for the world and he needed help to bring him back to reality.
I read in the paper today (among other such things) that once when Cho was asked to read aloud to the class he initially said nothing. The teacher threatened to give him a failing grade for participation. So eventually Cho starts to speak in an odd deep voice. His classmates start to laugh and point and say "Go back to China"! That totally disgusts me. It's sick. People can be horrible. That's life you say? You need to understand that some people take such things harder than others. He must have been in an absolutely terrible mental and emotional state for a big part of his life if this sort of treatment continued. You'd be surprised at how large an effect such small things (in this case though I don't believe it was small), can have on a persons mental state. People don't just decide one day "oh I think I'll go and shoot all my classmates and commit suicide!". Whoever it was that said he did it all simply because of his girlfriend - you're an idiot. I seriously, seriously doubt that. I find that utterly ridiculous.
It's hard to put this into words so I guess I'll just stop. I just think some people are being very narrow minded and biased. It's easy to point at the killer in hatred, but I believe it's only fair as none of us knew him in person, to hate what he did, rather than to hate who he was.
Are gun laws to blame? is the mental health system to blame? You can't just lay all the blame on one thing. However I believe each of these things played a part. I think the whole guns for security thing in America is a big joke. Totally stupid... What does that say for America? If your average everyday American needs a gun to defend his family? And I've always thought that way. And of course people will bring it up now, why shouldn't they?
There are, as someone said, many things that should be learnt from this. But they never are. In time this will be all but forgotten by most of the population. I like what an Italian Newspaper apparently said - "School shootings are as American as apple pie", sadly it is so true...
And yes the images of Cho did chill me. The look of hatred in his eyes. It just sickens me to think how he got to such a terrible state. My heart goes out to him, those he killed, and their families.
But god Jack Thompson is an idiot... How can people be so thick?? All he's doing is destroying what little credibility he had left. If he had any to lose... Seriously... training on Doom for a school shooting? Get a life Jack, I'm sure there's at least a million better ways to "rehearse" for such a thing.
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i find it funny he says that 80% of the students there play counter strike. well if his "theory" has any truth to it whatsoever then we would probably be seeing 80% of the students at that school gunning down 30 something people in cold blood. and its absolutly hilarious how he tried to tell chris matthews he knew for a fact what that guy was doing in his spare time even though he has never seen,met, or will meet him and then have the nerve to say that his own roomates are wrong.
this guy is so full of **** i dont even really care what he trys to do to the game industy anymore, and i dont think any of you guys should either. when was the last time one of his plans actually worked? if he wants to make a complete ass of himself (not that he already hasnt), i say let him. when the truth finally comes out its going to hit him like a ton of bricks and i will have no sympathy for him. he had his chance years ago to cut this bull**** but now i feel this man will stoop to any level, no matter how dirty it is, just to either get attention, force his morals or just mind control people.
if i was the flordia bar i would disbar right here him and now and put his lying ass in place. people like jack are on of the main reason why these things continue. these shooters have no fear of consiquences because these ****ing morons are devoting all their attention to getting irrelivent ideas and proposals out to the public as a factor like its some kind of "corrupt your children" conspiracy theory, and then claime this kind violence is just magically going to up and fade from existance.
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